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MWC May Still Get its Automatic Bid

Denis Poroy - AP

If, and mostly when, Utah leaves the MWC will play a big part in the MWC's quest for a BCS automatic bid.

With the death of the Pac-16 dream (for now), it's likely that Larry Scott will settle on inviting Utah to come play for his conference to even things out at 12 member institutions. As a result, many folks proclaiming that minus the Utes, the MWC's hopes at a BCS automatic qualifying bid are no better than before this expansion episode.

Perhaps, but let's take a closer look and actually do the math.

A QUICK RECAP

The BCS's automatic qualifying formula is based on three criteria:

  1. Finish in final BCS standings of the highest-ranked team.
  2. Average finish of all members in the final BCS poll in the computer rankings.
  3. Number of teams in final BCS poll top 25, scored in a point system and adjusted for conference size.

The final BCS poll of a season is the one at the end of the regular season. There is no post-bowl BCS poll.

A conference must finish in the top six of all conferences in parts (1) and (2) and have at least 50% of the points of the highest scoring conference in part (3) to gain an automatic bid. If a conference is in the top six of one of the first two parts but seventh in the other (and has at least 33% of the leader's points in the third), it must petition the Presidential Oversight Committee in order to get an automatic bid. The evaluation period is the 2008-11 football seasons.

Prior to the shuffling of schools, the MWC ranked third in part (1), seventh in part (2), and had 91% of the SEC's leading point total in part (3).

A QUESTION OF TIMING

Here are two quotes from BCS's rules as posted on its web site:

A conference will become the seventh automatic qualifier if it finishes among the top six conferences in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 50 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.

...

The computations will be made according to the conference's membership on Dec. 4, 2011.

At the moment, Colorado is scheduled to join the Pac-10 in 2012. Should Utah also join in 2012, the Utes' records should count towards the MWC because of the date of when the determination will take place. Note that if a conference meets the levels outline in the first paragraph quoted above, it "will become the seventh automatic qualifier" with no caveats or qualifications. Unless the BCS has some hidden rules somewhere (or unless the scoundrels in charge change the rules), the MWC could earn its auto bid with Utah's records included even if the Utes leave in 2012.

TO THE NUMBERS

With the addition on Boise State, the MWC's standing understandably improves.

Nothing changes in part (1), as the Broncos were behind the MWC's top team in each of the last two seasons. In part (2), the MWC's average finish improves from 58.85 to 53.68. It is chasing the sixth place Big Ten in this category, which with Nebraska clocks in a 49.91. That's a lot closer. In the third category, the MWC actually takes the lead by half a point, so it's safe.

With Boise State and Utah's records, the MWC is tantalizingly close to getting that automatic bid. However, no one wants to see the MWC get its bid on a technicality. How's it doing without the Utes' records?

Star-divide

It takes a slight hit on part (1) because it loses Utah's sixth-place finish, but Boise State's ninth-place finish keeps the MWC safe in fourth place. On part (2), the MWC's average slips to 58.00, only 0.85 better that where it started. In part (3), Boise State's strong finishes keep the MWC as the leader.

As long as its top teams can keep up the pace over the next two seasons, the MWC is safe in parts (1) and (3). Part (2) is still the snag, as the MWC has seen its bottom four teams in each of the last two years finish 78th or worse in the average computer rankings. With Boise State included with Utah in the conference, the gap between the Big Ten and MWC over the last two years was sliced in half. The other half can't be eliminated without the bottom getting better.

In the MWC's favor, it would be difficult for Colorado State (100.5 computer poll average in 2009) and New Mexico (114.75) to get worse, and Brady Hoke at least has San Diego State pointed in the right direction (up to 94.5 in '09 from 110.5 in '08). UNLV is trying a new coach this year too after an average finish across 2008-09 of 79.25. In addition, Purdue is scuffling under Danny Hope (75.62 average finish from 2008-09) and Indiana has been mostly hopeless under Bill Lynch (95.88). Illinois also declined to fire Ron Zook this off season, though Michigan's projected turnaround will hurt the MWC's chances.

The best case scenario for the MWC is for Utah to stay of course, but failing that, a Ute exit in 2012 would give the conference a chance to test just how automatic "automatic" is in the BCS's eyes. If the MWC has to petition the committee, there's no chance that it will count an exiting Utah's records towards the MWC's totals.

Looking at the country as a whole would help in such a petition considering that the gap (as it stands today) in part (2) between the seventh place MWC and the eighth place WAC is more than twice as large as the gap between the Big Ten and MWC. That Big Ten-MWC gap is also smaller than the margin between the first place SEC and the sixth place Big Ten.

Again, nothing much matters if the dregs of the MWC don't shape up. However, the amount they have to shape up is much less if Utah stays or doesn't leave until 2012. This is still a story to watch over the next couple of years.

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This is why the MWC should be figuring out a way to attract Texas Tech, Okie St, Kansas, Mizzou, and K-State while jettisoning the bottom of the conference. The Forgotten Five could make a lateral move to a BCS conference and screw the Big 12 over.

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by Poseur on Jun 16, 2025 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

This is why I want the MWC to be destroyed.

The current MWC President’s will never kick out an existing team. As a Boise fan, I only wanted conference Armageddon to happen in hopes the MWC would dissolve and a better conference would pick up the pieces (…all the while hoping more that Boise is one of those pieces).

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by Loque on Jun 16, 2025 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting point:
At the moment, Colorado is scheduled to join the Pac-10 in 2012. Should Utah also join in 2012, the Utes’ records should count towards the MWC because of the date of when the determination will take place.

You’re almost certainly correct in that respect, which raises an intriguing issue. It is not in the Pac-10’s interest to see the neighboring Mountain West move up to automatic-qualifier status at the exact moment the Pacific Coast league officially expands to twelve teams and begins playing a conference championship game. The talk of the proposed Pac-16 having a loose scheduling arrangement, no conference championship game, and two automatic BCS bids reveals the real goal behind Pac-10 expansion.

Pac-10 fans wise enough to see beyond the dollar signs realize that a conference championship game is not a guaranteed boon, as the infamous aerial shot of the ACC championship game attests. A Pac-12 championship game loss by a would-be BCS contender could cost the league’s second-place finisher a spot in the big money bowls. Due to that risk, it is in the Pac-10’s interests to keep the MWC at second-class status and increase the probability of a Pac-12 team receiving an at-large BCS berth.

If Utah would be due to begin Pac-12 play in 2012, and if the Mountain West’s membership on December 4, 2011, determines the MWC’s AQ status, wouldn’t the Pac-10 want to make its membership invitation to Utah officially effective as of December 3, 2011? It might make for a slightly wonky Pac-10 bowl picture at the end of the 2011 season, but wouldn’t Utah and the rest of the Pac-10 be willing to accept that temporary oddity to ensure the Pac-12 remains the big kid on the block?

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by T Kyle King on Jun 16, 2025 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I would just give the mwc an aq bcs conference status so we don't have to hear bcs buster anymore

my favorite team is utah and i’m kinda glad we are going to the pac-ten but with the addition of boise state(to the mwc) it’s about an equal tradeoff. i was getting sick of the words bcs buster and it was for the teams i like. i can only imagine what the other aq bcs conferences thought of espn proclaiming this team the “bcs buster”.

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by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 16, 2025 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s an easy way to avoid empty fields at the championship game, though it’s a bit mid-major-ish. You just give the the team with the best record home-field advantage. The SEC is very fortunate that Atlanta is driveable from pretty nearly everywhere in SEC country, has a major hub airport, and playing there doesn’t seem to give the Dawgs a huge home field advantage. Whereas LA is the closest to that the Pac 12 has, and it is the home city for two schools, and only sort-of driveable for the Arizona and SF schools.

by drothgery on Jun 16, 2025 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  


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