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Alabama Vs. LSU: The Tide and Tigers' Semi-Weaknesses

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Thus far this season, Alabama and LSU have shown very few weaknesses. There is a reason these teams are ranked 1 and 2. But neither team is entirely without flaws. Especially given the wrong matchup, these teams are fallible and this game could be the wrong matchup for either team.

Alabama's big flaw – No deep threat

The last few seasons, Alabama had Julio Jones to go deep and take the pressure off the running game. Thus far this season, there has been nobody in that role. It was hoped before the season that Marquis Maze would step into that role, but he has been more of a possession receiver and he has the 12.4 YPC average to prove it instead of the 14.5 average that Julio Jones put up last season.

On its own, Maze becoming more of a possession receiver than a deep threat is not a problem. Some of the best teams both in the NFL and college have had a possession guy as a top receiver. I recall the Dallas Cowboy teams of the early 90s having Michael Irvin as a possession guy (though he could go deep when needed) and Alvin Harper as the deep threat on the other side. The problem for Alabama is the lack of the deep threat. Other than Maze (who did finally get a big play against Tennessee), the longest receptions are by running backs.

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The problem is that Alabama could get away with no deep threat against everyone they faced. Only the Penn St. defense possessed the tools needed to slow the Alabama running game down and that defense was worn down because its offense lacked the tools needed to move the ball against Alabama (or really anyone else, can anyone explain how that team is 8-1 while we're at it here?). Given a good offense that could at least get a few first downs, Penn St.'s defense might have been even better than the 4.98 YPP they gave up to Alabama and, playing at home, might have had the chance to steal a victory at the end of the game. Had Alabama had a deep threat, Penn St. wouldn't have been able to stack the box the way they did to slow Trent Richardson and Eddy Lacy down as much as they did and the Alabama offense would have rolled.

Against LSU, Alabama will face a similar challenge to the one they faced against Penn St. The LSU defense will at least slow down if not outright stop the Alabama running game. That puts the onus on Alabama to find some plays down the field that haven't really been there this season to open the defense up. In addition, the LSU offense will likely move the ball a little bit (or at least more than Penn St. did), meaning a fresher defense to combat whatever Alabama throws at them.

The big question for Alabama then, is can they hit a true deep ball or two to keep the LSU defense loose.

LSU's big flaw – The secondary, great though it is, is not infallible and can be had deep

Just as it was for Alabama, the biggest test for LSU's biggest weakness was a road non-conference game. In this case it was the road test in Morgantown against West Virginia. Yes, I know LSU won the game by a large margin, but not until the Mountaineers scared LSU with a couple of passing driven touchdown drives in the 3rd quarter to close a blowout game to a 27-21 margin.

So what happened in Morgantown other than a pass happy offense and pass happy quarterback getting hot? For one thing, West Virginia found some holes in the LSU defense after halftime. If West Virginia could make some adjustments to find some holes in the LSU pass defense, rest assured Nick Saban likely can find them too and despite what the passing stats show thus far this season, Saban has better personnel to take advantage of any holes in the LSU pass defense. What resulted was a series of long completions culminating in a 72 pass play to Tavon Austin that helped get the game to 27-21 before the backbreaking kickoff return touchdown. In the first half, West Virginia had two completions for 20 yards or more resulting in 7 points. In the first three series of the 3rd quarter, West Virginia had three such plays on drives that covered 215 yards and resulted in two touchdowns and a punt after generating four first downs.

In addition, Florida actually managed to hit a deep ball on the LSU defense with Jacoby Brisset in the game. Given how bad Brisset and Jeff Driskel and the rest of Florida's offense looked without John Brantley in the 2nd half against Alabama and against the clearly inferior Auburn defense, this is a potential red flag. While it hasn't happened much, LSU's pass defense can clearly be had, especially if the quarterback is given time to throw.

Alabama's offensive line should be able to get AJ McCarron time to throw. If they do, it comes down to the only semi-weakness on the Alabama team against the only semi-weakness on the LSU team. Can Alabama hit the deep ball or will the LSU defense continue to force turnovers? The answer to that question likely decides the game Saturday night.

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LSU's big flaw – The secondary, great though it is, is not infallible and can be had deep

Not quite. Teams have completed exactly 6 passes of 15 yards or more on LSU this season in 47 attempts. LSU has intercepted 7 of them. They almost never get beat deep.

Actually, if you’re going to throw on LSU, you want to get players matched up on the linebackers — and that’s what WVU did, with crossing routes. It wasn’t with deep throws at all.

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And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 4, 2025 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I said semi-weakness :)

That said the Tavon Austin play in the West Virginia game was a deep throw (the only real one they hit). Yes, it took a perfect throw and I don’t know if McCarron can hit that kind of throw.

Personnel wise, I’m not sure LSU has faced another team with that kind of threat. Oregon needs to be able to run the ball to throw deep because their receivers are average, Mississippi St., Kentucky, Tennessee (sans the injured Bray and Hunter), Auburn (sans the injured Blake), and the non-conference slaughters all lack the receivers to get even a step against elite cornerbacks like LSU has, especially with no running game to open things. After Alabama, the Arkansas game will be the only real test of that before the SEC and BCS Title games (if LSU wins Saturday of course)

by aubievegas on Nov 4, 2025 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, you can't stop EVERYBODY

But by and large, WVU’s success came on short throws and missed/broken tackles. That was probably LSU’s worst day tackling this season.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 4, 2025 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it was no doubt

Because of the uncharacteristic missed tackles, I disregarded the overall yardage numbers in that game and focused in on a couple of plays.

Also, part of the lack of deep throws against LSU is the pressure the qb is under consistently. Even if the receivers get open, it’s hard to find them while under duress

by aubievegas on Nov 4, 2025 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So could someone explain how Miss St

was down only 3 points going into the 4th quarter? Did they hit the deep ball?

"Never start a fight with an old man...if he's too old to fight, he'll probably just kill you."

by figtide on Nov 4, 2025 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense played well and LSU hadn’t really found it’s offense yet. This would be a whole lot more noteworthy had the score been 24-21 instead of 9-6

by aubievegas on Nov 4, 2025 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree on Maze not being a deep threat

He is very much a deep threat as he has brought down deep balls both last year and this year. The problem is that McCarron has trouble being accurate with the deep ball. I can’t count how many open receivers he has overthrown on deep routes. McElroy was polished enough to take advantage of our WR speed the last couple of years. McCarron is still a little raw.

by AllTideUp on Nov 5, 2025 1:49 AM EDT reply actions  


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