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LSU's Schedule Is a Tough Grind // SEC 2011

This is an overview. Predictions come later. Home games in CAPS.

SEPTEMBER

9/3: vs. Oregon (Arlington, TX)

9/10: NORTHWESTERN STATE

9/17: at Mississippi State

9/24: at West Virginia

LSU wins the prize for most difficult September schedule in the conference. Tell 'em what they've won, Johnny! Well, it all starts out with a fabulous trip to Arlington, Texas where they play in the plush confines of the new Cowboys Stadium. It has the world's largest video boards, a potential capacity of over 100,000 people, and the national championship hopeful Oregon Ducks waiting inside. A quick snack at home precedes a pair of true road games. The first is at Mississippi State, which could be tricky even if the Bulldogs haven't beaten the Tigers since 1999. Finally the month wraps up with a trip to West Virginia, where Dana Holgorsen's offense will be on display and the crowd will be fueled up. It's not likely, but not out of the question, that LSU could start 1-3. Even a 2-2 start would still be enough to knock LSU out of the national title race within a month of the first kick.

OCTOBER

10/1: KENTUCKY

10/8: FLORIDA

10/15: at Tennessee

10/22: AUBURN

10/29: BYE

The upshot of playing three games away from home in September is that LSU plays three of four in Death Valley in October. Fortunately for the Tigers, they miss the both East division favorites in South Carolina and Georgia. It all begins with a visit from rebuilding Kentucky. UK, in up years, has been able to push LSU more often than makes sense, but this is not an up year for the 'Cats. Next comes rebuilding Florida, who very nearly knocked off the Tigers last year. After that is a visit to rebuilding Tennessee, who would have beaten LSU in last year's game if they could have counted to 11 properly on what should have been the final play. Finally, they wrap up October a week early by hosting rebuilding Auburn before a bye. Notice a pattern? All four opponents are rebuilding in some form or another, which means this month should be manageable.

NOVEMBER

11/5: at Alabama

11/12: WESTERN KENTUCKY

11/19: at Ole Miss

11/25: ARKANSAS

Too much has been made of the angle of Nick Saban facing his former school over the years, but the Saban-Les Miles rivalry has been one of the nation's best in the span. They're 2-2 against each other, with the largest margin of victory in any game being nine. It should be a classic again this year. Western Kentucky provides the obligatory November cupcake, and a road trip to Ole Miss isn't too bad. Speaking of entertaining rivalries, Miles versus Arkansas has been a great one too. He's 3-3 against the Hogs, and the largest margin of victory was eight. It's a great way to end the season on the Friday after Thanksgiving.

OVERALL

So far I've made a big deal about how difficult schedules are in the SEC West. In fact, which West teams they face goes a long way to explaining the differences in strength of schedule for the East teams. LSU wasn't satisfied with that. It is playing Oregon in a favorable neutral site game and at West Virginia this season. The former is a better team than the latter, but the latter is a tougher environment for sure. LSU could be better than it was last year and still lose more games. Of all the tough grinds in the SEC, this one might be the toughest.

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No "might be"

it IS the toughest. Probably by a solid margin.

by cfn_ms on Aug 8, 2025 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, but LSU doesn't have to play LSU...

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by LSU Jonno on Aug 8, 2025 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say the toughest is Auburn

Carolina is better than Tennessee, and Georgia is better than Kentucky. Also, LSU is better than Auburn. I don’t think the Oregon game alone cancels out all three of those.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 8, 2025 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toughest September?

Auburn plays Utah St, FAU, Clemson, and Miss St. Yeah, I’m going with LSU’s schedule there as being just slightly tougher.

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by Poseur on Aug 8, 2025 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the discussion was toughest schedule, not toughest September

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 8, 2025 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the WVU roadie AND a neutral w/Oregon

Might…especially coupled w/Auburn gets Alabama at home and LSU is on the road

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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 8, 2025 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I ignored the WVU roadie for a reason

Auburn plays at Clemson. I like Holgorson too, but it’s his first year as a head man after a somewhat tumultuous offseason, and I just don’t think one is a whole lot tougher than the other.

And LSU gets Arkansas at home while Auburn gets them on the road.

I still think Auburn’s schedule wins, but I can understand how it’s close. As I said, I see the Clemson/WVU thing as canceling out, and the Bama/Arkansas home/away as canceling or close. So it comes down to whether you’d rather play [Oregon Jerryworld, @Tennessee, vs. Auburn, vs. Kentucky] or [LSU, @South Carolina, @Georgia, vs. Utah State]. I see the latter as tougher in each of the first three fixtures, and the difference between Kentucky and Utah State isn’t enough to balance it out.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 8, 2025 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn auto-format

comparison is this

Oregon (netural) vs. LSU (away)
Tennessee (away) vs. South Carolina (away)
Auburn (home) vs. Georgia (away)
Kentucky (home) vs. Utah State (home)

I say the the second column is tougher. LSU has the advantage of not having to play LSU. Auburn has the disadvantage of not getting to play a down Auburn.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 8, 2025 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ignoring common opponents

and HFA b/c I’m lazy (Auburn gets one extra home game and LSU one extra neutral compared to each other, adding to LSU’s relative SOS, but I don’t feel like looking at H/A game by game), you get:

Oregon vs LSU - call it a wash
Auburn vs Utah St - titanic edge LSU

WV vs Clemson - big edge LSU
WKU vs FAU - edge Auburn (I think)
AA vs AA - wash

Tenn vs SC - big edge Auburn
Florida vs Georgia - call it a wash

Overall, 1 big edge each, and then 1 titanic edge vs one fairly small edge. Clear tougher schedule (IMO), LSU.

by cfn_ms on Aug 9, 2025 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

not clear at all

I would still say not even true. first of all, West Virginia is not clearly better than Clemson, let alone significantly better. They got beat by an average ACC team in a bowl last year, and they’ve been nothing but average since Stewart took over.

second of all, they both play Florida, so your last comparison should be Georgia vs. Kentucky. That changes the equation quite a bit.

make those two changes, and you have one titanic edge to LSU, one slight (if any) edge to LSU, and two big edges to Auburn.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 9, 2025 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

West Virginia

is, IMO, MUCH better than Clemson, who’s been pretty mediocre for a while and doesn’t seem likely to bust out anytime soon. Thanks to the OOC cupckaes, Auburn is probably only a bit above average for an SEC schedule.

by cfn_ms on Aug 9, 2025 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much better

The defense is something nasty. Ditto WVU, who made big strides under Stewart defensively. Skill level I’d give the advantage across the board to the Tigers.

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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 9, 2025 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't really agree

the BEST seasons Clemson has had over the past five or so seasons were Peach and Gator Bowl bids (which, as is customary for them, they lost). West Virginia has been to the BCS twice in six years (and won them both), and twice more went to the Gator Bowl (which they split).

And I don’t see why Clemson should be better than usual. If anything they should be worse, with heavy draft losses and a new QB. West Virginia does have a new coach (always iffy), but at least there you can reasonably argue that Stewart was killing them and the new guy is an upgrade.

Overall, I really struggle to see these two teams as comparable for 2011.

by cfn_ms on Aug 9, 2025 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

WVU has been to the BCS zero times in the last three years

and have lost their last two bowl games to mediocre ACC teams. So how do you figure that they’re not comparable to another mediocre ACC team?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 9, 2025 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used “might” because we haven’t seen anyone play a down yet.

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by Year2 on Aug 9, 2025 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sold on Holgorsen

While we all know this guy is a great coordinator he has never been a head coach before, and that is a whole different deal. It will be interesting to see how well he does when he has to run everything. Some guys like Jimbo Fisher do o.k., but then sometimes you get Charlie Weis, Ed Ogeron, etc. Should be a good game though.

by Memphisexile on Aug 8, 2025 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I for one am glad for those September road games

No 11:00 am JP kickoffs in 95 degree heat!

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by 4.0 Point Stance on Aug 8, 2025 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

At least they're not playing Oregon in Autzen

I’ve heard that’s a wild environment. Always wanted to go to a game there.

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by cocknfire on Aug 8, 2025 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

the Vols are playing there in 2013 (the return leg from last year's game)

I’d love to make the trek, but since I’ll still be in grad school (at UNC, which is not near Oregon) and it won’t be over a long weekend, I doubt I’ll be able to.

Also, when checking to see whether that would be over a long weekend, it occurs to me that we’ll have visits to Autzen and the Swamp in consecutive weeks. bleh

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 8, 2025 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, at least you won't have to worry about switching allegiances

I mean, it’s not like UNC is going to have a football program for a few years.

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by cocknfire on Aug 8, 2025 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ba-dum-tsh

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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 8, 2025 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

UW's stadium looked wild also...

I hope LSU can set up another home and home with another PAC 12 school again: preferably UO, UW, Ariz St., or SC.

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