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Urban Meyer Has Some In the Big Ten Feeling Threatened

Former Florida head coach Urban Meyer has gotten a lot of heat from some fellow Big Ten coaches over his recruiting tactics. Specifically Meyer, and hold back your horror here for a second, went after recruits that were committed to other schools. I know, I know. It's a good thing I first heard about it while sitting down.

Bret Bielema is upset, which is understandable given that he lost an offensive line recruit to Meyer on signing day. He's even decided to cry complain to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany about it. Mark Dantonio called Meyer unethical. Meyer responded to the complaints thusly:

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."

Translation: "U MAD BRO?" Meyer has crossed over into Lane Kiffin territory in terms of agitating fellow coaches in his conference. I'm glad we could all share this moment.

I'm a little confused at all the outrage, because I thought we got all this settled when Rich Rodriguez got to Michigan. There was no real gentleman's agreement not to go after committed recruits. There was some complaining about RichRod doing that initially, but it all died away. What has changed?

My guess is that these other Big Ten coaches actually think Meyer can win at Ohio State. He won at Bowling Green despite never even having been a coordinator before becoming a head coach. He made Utah the first ever BCS buster. He won two national championships at Florida and easily could have won a third if it wasn't for Nick Saban.

I think the consensus up there was that Rodriguez was not a serious threat to win big after his first year. He was seen a force of change initially, which is why people got all rankled about his recruiting, but then 3-9 killed that quickly. It became a given that his system wouldn't work in the Big Ten, and everyone settled down. His system would, in fact, work in the Big Ten, as it was his poor defensive coaching choices that did him in.

Meyer is a threat to win. He also comes with the stigma of having worked in the SEC. All I hear from Bielema and Dantonio is: "Can't you see what's happening? He's trying to make us just like the SEC!!"

Guess what? The Big Ten is just like the SEC, only it's covered itself up in some kind of abrasively arrogant, faux genteel wallpaper. While Delany is the troll pulling all the strings, the conference is probably best personified in Jim Tressel. Tressel used his sweater vest and boring personality to hide the fact that he's a ruthless competitor who was willing to break rules to try to get ahead. They're pretty much all like that, only they prefer to have a veneer of sanctimonious righteousness covering it up.

Meyer is up front about his commitment to winning, as is everyone in the SEC. As is most everyone in the country, for that matter. It's especially rich to hear Bielema, who dropped 83 points on Indiana and went for two while up by a huge margin late in a game, act as though he's not a win-at-all-costs type. (Note: Former OSU LB Brian Rolle says Wisconsin recruited him up to signing day despite having committed to the Buckeyes. He was a freshman in 2007, which was Bielema's second year at UW. Busted, Bret.)

I think these coaches aren't just threatened by the idea that Meyer will dominate the conference with Ohio State as Tressel did before him. I think they're also worried that he'll finally put an end to the bankrupt idea that the Big Ten really is all that different from everyone else.

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is exactly like the SEC, except the part about winning in the past 20 years or so. Why do you think Meyer went there? At Florida, he’d struggle to win the East and would always have a hard time winning the conference, which would usually* mean no shot at the NC.

At Ohio, however, it’s a different matter. He has a pretty easy path to winning the conference and thereby always playing in a BCS game. He’ll likely have a easier time recruiting againt the Anorexia Bulimia than the Nickinator, even if the pickings are somewhat slimmer.

  • - does this really need an astisk?

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by NJBammer on Feb 3, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Struggle?

In 2009, Florida set a record by winning the East in the month of October.

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by Year2 on Feb 3, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup,

and it almost killed Meyer. Believe me, I respect the coach too well to make fun of him for that – there’s no chance I would ever be able to accomplish what he has in his life. But the pressure cooker of the SEC is something he was not able to handle, but the Big 10 is another matter.

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by NJBammer on Feb 3, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

This doesn't surprise me, coming from Bret Bielema.

Bielema is a grade-A jackwagon, and has been from the get-go; he’s forever saying and doing “shock jock”-type stuff, so this is par for the course, and, besides, he’s a Big Ten lifer. He has every reason to want to rip on the SEC.

Mark Dantonio is another matter. He seldom says anything eyebrow-raising, and, when he does, it’s calculated to work to his benefit (e.g., his challenge to the Michigan assistant coach at the event prior to signing day, which deflated the Wolverines’ recruiting pitch). This doesn’t help him in any way; it just gives Urban Meyer bulletin board material. Moreover, Dantonio has strong SEC ties, and is widely considered to be a probable successor to Steve Spurrier at South Carolina when Darth Visor retires a few years down the road. That’s the kind of comment that could come back to haunt Dantonio when the time comes.

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by T Kyle King on Feb 3, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

"Jackwagon?"

I rec’d that, because I just love it when the Mayor gets so indignant that he curses in public.

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by vineyarddawg on Feb 3, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

SO much this
They’re pretty much all like that, only they prefer to have a veneer of sanctimonious righteousness covering it up.

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by danmarcel on Feb 3, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Aaron.50cal on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I AIN'T VOTIN' FOR NO GATOR FOR PRESIDENT, PAAAAAWWWWWWWLLLL.

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by vineyarddawg on Feb 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to know how osu is able to sign 25 kids

while on probation. Maybe 27 kids considering diggs and neal have yet to decide.

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by Aaron.50cal on Feb 3, 2012 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

They’re only down three scholarships, meaning they can have up to 82. Meyer says that after signing day, he had 81 players on scholarship (he’s saving a spot for WR recruit Stefon Diggs, who hasn’t signed yet).

People who watch the program closely would like to know how he got to those numbers, because if true, it means that some unidentified players are no longer on scholarship for reasons that aren’t public yet. No one outside the program knows how he got there, but he said he’s at 81.

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by Year2 on Feb 5, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting,

though i’d rather see Diggs with you guys.

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by Aaron.50cal on Feb 5, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That's Pretty Efficient Even For Corch

Been there less than a month and already cut loose enough meat to sign 25.

by Hogbody Spradlin on Feb 5, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

There Are Two Parts To This

1. Bielema and Dantonio are whiny hypocritical babies. I’m sure they’ve pulled a fast one recruiting when it helped them. “Gentlemen’s agreement”? Ho Ho Ho. That’s when the other guy is supposed to be fair, but you can do anything that’s fair game. Bear Bryant and Johnny Vaught are giggling in their graves at the suggestion of a gentlemen’s agreement. Even Barry Alvarez told Bielema to grow up.

2. Then there’s Corch. Corch Irvin Meyers that is. I wouldn’t put him ‘into Lane Kiffin territory’ because Corch has walked the walk. I acknowledge his succes, much of it against my beloveds, but he has a chip on the shoulder. See that picture of Corch up there, smiling warmly? Somebody must have pulled the wings off a fly and showed him. BUT, his recruiting wasn’t out of line.

by Hogbody Spradlin on Feb 5, 2012 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

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