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Mystery of LSU's BCS Game Plan Becomes Clearer

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I still don't understand LSU's game plan from the national championship game. Alabama's defense was good, historically good even, but the Tigers did themselves no favors with the way they tried to move the ball in that game. There is no good reason why LSU should have finished that game with under 100 total yards.

At the Senior Bowl, former LSU TE DeAngelo Peterson shed some light on what went wrong:

"We felt like we had a good game plan that would work, that would help us do things... The game plan was to spread the ball out, get the ball to me, get the ball to Rueben (Randle), let Russell (Shepard) run the ball every now and then, give the ball to our running backs."

All right, I'm with DeAngelo so far. But what went wrong?

"The play-calling bothered the whole offense... I feel like the coaches didn't use the game plan. They were doing stuff that we never did all year... In that game, Russell played like two plays, Rueben had like one ball, I had one ball. I think they went away from the game plan. ... I feel like if they had went to the game plan and given the playmakers the ball, they would have done something with the ball."

According to Shepard himself via his Twitter account, he participated in three plays. Randle had three catches for 13 yards, and Peterson had one catch for seven yards.

Peterson's account lays the blame on the coaches, which is where most post-game blame went to. That Les Miles never subbed Jarrett Lee in for Jordan Jefferson will be one detail from the game that will never be forgotten. The coaches kept trying to stretch the field horizontally, something that was never going to work against a defense as fast as Alabama's.

And speaking of doing stuff they never did all year, the first time LSU ran its signature toss ISO running play was with about eight minutes left in the game. That's the Tigers' bread-and-butter play for the whole offense, much less the rushing game. When they had one bonus play to beat Tennessee in 2010 after the Vols had 13 men on the field, they ran that play and won. Why it took so long to run the play that they do best defies explanation. It's not a bad idea to try to mix in new things for a bowl game to surprise the opposing defense, but you never abandon the basics in doing so.

How much blame to lay on Miles and how much goes on Greg Studrawa and Steve Kragthorpe is still an open question. Everything ultimately goes through Miles, but he doesn't actually call all the offensive plays. I can remember seeing some comments after the game on Twitter from Louisville fans telling everyone that now we can understand what they went through for three years, so maybe that's a clue.

Regardless, LSU's offensive coaches lost the game for the team more than the players did. It's enough to make me think long and hard about LSU's presumptive place near the top of the polls for next year.

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Unlike many folks, who seemingly don't have any memory beyond the last 4 months...

… I am 100% not surprised that Les Miles made questionable coaching decisions that cost his team the game at least once during the year. It’s his M.O. It just happened to occur at the worst possible time for his team this season.

My old joke about Les Miles is that he’s great at going 11-2 with 13-0 talent. I think we saw vintage “Hat” on display in that game.

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by vineyarddawg on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, but

Les Miles outcoached Saban in the first game between them in 2011. He played all his cards correctly in that one. Why he was so good in the first one and so bad in the second is the mystery.

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by Year2 on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

this is really oversimplified

both coaches went way conservative, and LSU’s offense didn’t do jack the 1st time around (Bama’s did between the 30s)…to say Miles outcoached Saban the 1st game is pretty weak. Bama left how many points on the field with missed FGs? And our 1st down calling the 1st game was putrid – often putting us in further distances for the FGs. And the one would-be touchdown of that game was about as close as you could make it…Maze doesn’t float that ball it’s a great call. Just sayin’.

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

and yea, yea

no Bama fan will ever admit Saban was outcoached by anyone, etc…BS…Saban’s Sugar Bowl against Utah and Bama/LSU 2010 I will gladly admit Saban was outcoached. There are others as well, but 2011 Bama/LSU the 1st time I do not think qualifies

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

So......

LSU’s defense had nothing to do with those long field goals? And that blocked one? Saban was outcoached in November because he was repeatedly faced with difficult special teams situations and repeatedly floundered.

"Well, it's 1 a.m. Better go home and spend some quality time with the wife and kids" - Homer J. Simpson

by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 26, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

this is also weak

LSU’s special teams is/was far superior…but floundered? Let’s see…it’s a long field goal…I go for points or punt for field position…i’ll try the kicker, we could use the points. we miss the field goals. CHECK OUT THE OUTCOACHING RIGHT THERE BY MILES. Makes no sense.

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Which long field goal are you referring to?

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by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 30, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

What? No one said the LSU defense wasnt the cause. They played great.

But Bama moved the ball quite a bit more, i.e. more scoring opportunities. Saban has been out-coached but not in that game. Junction is correct. Bama shot themself in the foot on Nov.5 Conservative play calling by both teams led to what we all witnessed that day.

by burmbuster on Jan 28, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Saban was outcoached on 11/5 bro.

Baffling decisions. Pin them deep instead of killing Cade’s confidence forever by kicking from the 37-38 YD line. LSU was surprisingly more successful by not going for points, rather by playing ultraconservative. Also, we never truly adjusted for the option in the second half.

Not sure what you saw, but we got outcoached.

Inanity @gothlaw

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by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 26, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

we were in position (and had chances) to score more points

throughout the entire game. we blew those chances on several calls, mostly due to execution and not the call itself. the option threw us, yes, but how many points did LSU gain from running said option? much less, a TIE at the end of regulation = outcoached (?) when most of the better stats belonged to Bama? I guess I have a very different definition of “outcoached” than y’all do

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

after 2-3 misses, in a tie game,

gotta’ be a little more conservative there. LSU wasn’t moving very well (and esp inside the 30). Just play safe.

Inanity @gothlaw

"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon

by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You consider 40-yard plus field goals

With kickers that suck from that distance “opportunities to score points?”

I suppose you think 50-yard hail marys are “winnable late game situations” as well.

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by Billy Gomila on Jan 26, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a very fair comparison by a clear-headed LSU fan

twenty-one to nevermind

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

However, you've never heard me say anything other than

LSU was pretty clearly outplayed and outcoached in January. Just as Alabama was in November.

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by Billy Gomila on Jan 26, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, the 40+ yard field goals is a weak point

that I’ve already addressed. Saban took his chances and he missed (Cade has hit several 40+ in his time at Bama). That’s it. Had we punted and y’all end up at the 20 or worse (at best) still doesn’t get us points. It was a tie. How does Saban taking his chances for some field goals = to getting outcoached? I can see why one might disagree with Saban’s decisions here, but this is not the same thing as getting out-schemed.

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL your kickers were like 1-10 from 40+ in 2011

But keep on calling “taking that chance” a good idea.

And besides that, you’re not the only team that left points on the board in November. If Rueben Randle catches a pass that was in his hands, it would’ve been 10-6 at the half. The what-ifs work two ways there chief.

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by Billy Gomila on Jan 26, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly, this is my point

if y’all execute a few plays y’all pull away as well…the Rueben play was a good call with poor execution…not an example of getting outcoached. why is this so hard? Saban took a gamble and it didn’t pay off…THIS IS NOT getting “outcoached.” Is it seriously possible to get outcoached when two teams of pretty even talent end regulation in tie? Seriously??? Y’all were so better prepared from an X’s and O’s standpoint y’all could only tie us? Only get 6 points in regulation? Well alright then, Miles is a genius after all.

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, I hate to say this...

But we were outcoached the second half of LSU last year too. We never responded to the inevitable flurry that was coming. We coached to not lose (until it was too late).

Inanity @gothlaw

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by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 26, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I am seeing stark similarities between Bama and Georgia.

Points left on the field. Blah blah blah. Get over it. You went 11-1 and then won the biggest game. No need to make excuses and winning the rematch does not justify your position. It only entitles you to the bcsncg. Go ahead and claim it, unlike some of the other titles, it is actually yours.

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by skandrewj62j on Jan 26, 2012 7:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

lame

i was simply contesting the outcoached notion. so yea, it makes a lot of sense to bring in the national title claiming at this point. very thoughtful and pertinent to the argument at hand.

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right, I should not have thrown that in there.

It popped in my head at the end of my thought. But my point remains. I don’t understand why Bama fans get so offended by the fact that Miles was able to outcoach and thusly beat the Tide on November 5th. Get over it. Saban clearly outcoached and outplayed LSU in January. There’s no need to get all defensive.

Not to get all Derek Dooley with war references…. but as they saying goes, they won that battle but you won the war.

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Jan 27, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

this is my last reply to this thread

as I said above, I do not have a problem admitting Saban got outcoached (see LSU 2010, Utah 2008)…I do not think the LSU Nov 5 game qualifies. If this game was between two teams I didn’t give a shit about I would say there is no way one coach outcoached the other simply by looking at the stats. I watched every play of this game several times over. This has nothing to do with being offended, this has nothing to do with Bama fans “getting over” anything. Bama moved the ball well between the 30s. (outcoached here?). Bama took a gamble on their kicker (Miles scheming here?). LSU surprised Bama with the option (AFTER Bama shut down Lee, and LSU had a mere 3 points to show for the move to Jefferson…brilliant coaching move at this point?). Bama calls a trick play and could have easily been a touchdown…poor execution (again, Saban being outcoached at this point?). Bama had the better game by most counts, our kicker missed some he had a chance to make, and our O play calling wasn’t the best on 1st down. We shut Lee down, held LSU to it’s lowest yards and points of the year, right? So Bama, holding LSU to it’s lowest yards and points OF THE YEAR is getting outcoached? The only way this is true…and I would love to see an LSU fan admit this…if we got outcoached Nov 5th, and you could only muster a tie and those yards then Bama was truly the FAR FAR superior team and Nov 5 really was a fluke based off poor coaching decisions by Saban. Any takers?

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by JunctionCrimson on Jan 27, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The object of the game isn't to generate yards. It is good to move the ball between the 30s but it is great to score points.

So keep pointing to your great yardage and u will keep pointing to lack of points. Yeah I say LSU outcoached Bama because they were able to shut them down when it mattered most. They made Bama choose between points in kicking or going for it. Savanna made the move to try for points but only because LSU forced him to do so. If there was a tie…. if you look at yards…. if….. if….. if tide if.

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Jan 28, 2012 2:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I don't see how anyone can claim one outcoached the other in any OT game.

It was two great teams in an epic battle with two coaching staffs calling really conservative plays. And it sucked.

by burmbuster on Jan 28, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

LMAO. Typical sackaralina response. When they have nothing to add this is what you get.

You have one good season in football and everybody is chest bumping and soaking in grandiosity.
Don’t worry. Things will be back to normal next year so the weight will be off of your shoulders. Enjoy the 7 win season.

by burmbuster on Jan 28, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Believe me, I am not worried.

We finally have a roster that gives us a fighting chance.

- FOW

by skandrewj62j on Jan 28, 2012 2:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Honestly, at this point

I’d like to think people can get past their own biases and come up with something other than “DERP TYPICAL LES MILES” when the guy goes 13-0 with an SEC championship and only loses in the national championship game.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 26, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Play calling is easy to criticize

but execution is what ultimately determines a play. Yes LSU went away from it’s tendencies but so did Alabama, AJ Mccaron was our main source of offense with Trent Richardson basically being a decoy. Alabama just executed better.

by MCS_RTR on Jan 26, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Miles was more

concerned with running what he thought (from the November 5 game) was the optimal offense against Bama (option) instead of simply going strength vs. strength again. We’ll never know all the details but obviously there was miscommunication between the offense and the coaching staff. At the same time, remember how absolutely dominating LSU’s (run) offense had been almost the entire season. The coaches did their jobs in every game except the one that counted the most.

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by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 26, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Our pass rush

also blew the big one

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by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 26, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The other thing to take away were two other (generally) successful plays not ran.

Anyone that’s watched Saban corners (all teams, all levels), knows they have one huge, glaring weakness…vulnerable to the slant. You can make money running a zero and three step slant. LSU had great success with that last year in B.R. in the second half comeback. On 1/9 LSU ran that play exactly twice. Once for a 1st down, and once defended pretty well. In the makeable shorter passing downs, I saw baffling out routes on at least 2-3 occasions.

Second, no deep shots. The deep PA pass has been very much a staple of the LSU offense. It generates a lot of explosive plays. How many times did we see that? Exactly none.

Inanity @gothlaw

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by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 26, 2012 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

I'm still clueless as to why LSU didnt run their best plays

The team’s bread and butter is I-formation football, now theres no guarantee that would work against Bama, but you have to do what youre best at. When you don’t even try, you look like crap nearly always, and they did that night.

If you try to do what you do best, and they stop it, then you adjust from that, or tip your cap to them.

by DrB on Jan 26, 2012 7:29 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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