Report: Big 12 is Done, Texas Has Been Talking to ACC
Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow of the Austin American-Statesman published a comprehensive report regarding Texas officials' visit to Oklahoma yesterday. The intention of the trip was to convince OU's leadership to give the Big 12 a shot, but they discovered that the Sooners' brass have already decided to apply for Pac-12 membership:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability."
Then again, Pete Thamel of the New York Times sees the AA-S's "well-placed source at a Big 12 school" and raises it an "administrator at a Big 12 university with knowledge of the meeting":
"It was not a productive meeting," said an administrator at a Big 12 university with knowledge of the meeting. "Texas went there with the thought of beginning the process of putting back together the Big 12, and Oklahoma wasn’t as receptive as Texas had hoped. That doesn’t mean it’s the end of it."
That's as good an indication as any that no one inside the Big 12 can see the entire picture at the moment. At least, no one who is talking publicly. The only thing everyone agrees on is that Oklahoma State will follow Oklahoma with whatever it decides to do.
Thamel's report includes a tidbit that Pac-12 presidents are not enthused at the prospect of adding the Oklahoma schools by themselves. The presidents saw them as "a necessary evil" to get Texas to come last summer, which throws into doubt the idea that they are a shoo-in to become the Pac-12's 13th and 14th members without Texas also coming. The presidents don't see them as being up to snuff academically to fit in with the rest of the conference, although they're not too far off from where current members Washington State, Oregon State, and Utah are.
Texas, for its part, is looking around broadly. The AA-S report says that Texas hasn't decided on anything yet other than pulling out all the stops to save the Big 12. It says that AD DeLoss Dodds is opposed to going independent, so that option is low on the list. It is considering the Pac-12, but the fact that it wants to hold onto the Longhorn Network and Larry Scott won't allow it complicates that option.
The real shocker here is not that Texas is considering the ACC, which was floated around last week, but that the two have already started talking. "A high-ranking Texas source" essentially called the talks informal and not yet serious, but the fact that there even have been discussions is a remarkable development. The ACC would allow Texas to keep the Longhorn Network as-is, and it apparently has floated the option for a four-team pod system rather than divisions to help with scheduling. Another plus is that Texas is closer to most ACC schools than most Pac-12 schools, and the ACC is only one time zone away instead of two.
If Texas is even considering going to the ACC, we've officially gone through the conference realignment looking glass. Hold on to your hats, folks. Let's see just how much more bizarre this gets.
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Upon hearing that Texas was in talks to join the ACC, a well-placed inside source at an ACC school had the following reaction:

by vineyarddawg on Sep 13, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Literally LOLed at that...
by Dixie's Football Pride on Sep 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At this point
Let’s just put all the names in a hat and start drawing at random until there’s four sixteen team conferences and the unchosen get all get lumped together and schedule each other at random. Then do it relegation style every three years. Top eight aggreate from the unwashed masses get to replace to two lowest performers in each of the four top dog conferences.
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
by jpb531 on Sep 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can't see the schools, the tv networks, or the bowl people going for it
but I love the idea of teams being demoted from the top tier for poor play, and other teams promoted for good play.
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by TheMattROb on Sep 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, me neither.
It was mostly meant as a sarcastic off the cuff aside. I’m sick of the whole realignment business. Just do it and be done with it so I know where my school is so I can bitch about where it ended up.
We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.
-Che Marrone
The ACC is smart to begin talks now
Basically, either them or the Big East will likely get raided, and if the ACC want to be the one to survive they need to be proactive. Sitting back and seeing how things play out is part of what doomed the BIG XII. Had they gone after teams to replace those they lost they might not be in the situation they are in now.
Having Texas as its most prominent and influential member...
is a larger part of what doomed the Big XII.
The folks in Chapel Hill, especially, would be wise to put the kabosh on horns to ACC ideas - at least with lhn intact
A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall.
Vince Lombardi
Call me a grumpy old man if you want
But I’m ready for Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, and everyone else to go have their cash cow slap fight on an Amarillo UHF station and leave the rest of us alone. This was all fine and entertaining during the off-season, but in case no one’s noticed — and apparently we haven’t — there’s actual football being played now.
There should be a lot of interesting storylines playing out. Florida and Tennessee are both undefeated going head-to-head for the first time since 2006. Both of the defending division champs have looked rough at times, and are going into interesting non-conference games. Mark Richt has to do something, anything, to right Georgia’s ship. LSU’s national championship aspirations are being given a Thursday night showcase in Starkville.
And we can’t discuss A SINGLE ONE OF THEM because every time we try, somebody else in the Lone Star State has to hop up and go OH HAI GUYS PISSING CONTEST LOL.
I hope the entire thing implodes, the Pac-12 takes Kansas, the ACC signs Missouri, and the SEC picks up Sewanee.
by parlagi on Sep 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Conference realignment is a 100 year decision for the Texas flagship schools.
What UFlorida and Rockytop are doing is secondary.
Hmm. This Texas to the ACC thing seems
like they are trying to get leverage from the PAC or B1G. They want to keep their LHN and they want people to believe that the ACC will let them continue to have it the way it is.
“The ACC will let us keep it, why won’t the B1G/PAC? We’d love to join you, but you won’t give us what we want.”
In the deed, the glory.
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The ACC is like the nerdy girl with buck teeth that thought she might get asked to the prom by the captain of the football team.
If Texas were to hook up with them, they’d let the Horns have LHN, keep all their own BCS revenue, and maybe even create their own damn schedule. Anything to hold on their prize steer.
by vineyarddawg on Sep 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Doherty approves of this analogy
"Lattimore, as the kids can say, can ball, and sometimes does it to the extent one might say [he] is out of control in his balling." - Spencer Hall
by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
As part of the B1G, I bet people at Nebraska are rolling their eyes at the possibility that Texas would join the the B1G. Seems like a lot more excess baggage comes with Texas than it’s worth.
by AuburnMisfit on Sep 13, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest.
This husker fan would love to see Texas in the B1G. Texas had our number, but every game, save one, came down to the wire. They were very enjoyable to watch and it’s always fun to beat them. We have a record to set straight.
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by Aaron Musfeldt on Sep 13, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Osborne would have an anuerysm
Getting away from Texas is the main reason Nebraska left the Big 12.
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JUST HOW MUCH is ESPN behind these rumors - given that the ACC is an all-ESPN league, and the horns have sold their souls to espn?
This whole past year or so will make quite a book one day, if anyone could get the true stories….
A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall.
Vince Lombardi
Don't know
But the reports cite officials at Big 12 schools. That pretty much rules out ESPN’s direct involvement, unless you think the “high ranking Texas source” is from the ESPN half of the Longhorn Network.
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IT'S A CONSPIRACY PAWWWLLLLL
If the WWL was behind all of this then $Texas would be going to the SEC. We’re the one it’s in cahoots with. Read it on the internet.
by PalmettoTiger on Sep 13, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions

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