TEXAS A&M BOARD MEETING MOVED TO MONDAY; VOTE ON REALIGNMENT SCHEDULED
by cocknfire on Aug 12, 2011 4:40 PM EDT
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PrintThis is what you call official. The Texas A&M Board of Regents has moved its scheduled meeting next week to Monday and added an agenda item that is unmistakably about a pending move to the SEC.
Authorization for the President to Take All Actions Relating to Texas A&M University's Athletic Conference Alignment, The Texas A&M University System
The full agenda could be posted soon on the TAMU site for the meeting, but the intent of the item is clear. Essentially, Bowen Loftin is going to get the go-ahead to make all the decisions that would be needed to get A&M into the SEC. Rumors are indicating that the SEC doesn't want to poach A&M from the Big XIIish, but would likely accept A&M if the Aggies left the conference -- and such semantics are important in the odd world of conference administration.
Instead of going through the hurdles of holding multiple meetings, the A&M board of regents is simply going to give Loftin the authority to pull out of the Big XIIish and join the SEC. Likely in that order.
The timing of the meeting is significant, as well, in light of the Texas Legislature's decision to hold a hearing about conference realignment Tuesday. By then, it will probably be too late.
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This was a VERY organized and savvy dance by
the SEC and A&M. The outfoxed a lot of political interests and journalists with their determined actions.
So who comes with a&m? Will both new schools have the same passion for the SEC? Will a&m ever want to jump ship if things dont go their way? So many questions….
no clue
but I don’t think it will 14, that number just doesn’t make sense to me. My immediate guess for 3 of the following:
FSU
Missouri
Clemson
NC State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
by BamaThrasher on Aug 12, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The only problem with Oklahoma is i think they cant or wont go anywhere without Okie state and I dont think we invite both. I dont like the idea of a 16 team super conference but like you said 14 seems odd…
I agree
if I had to bet, I would say it the following:
FSU – because already lots of chatter
Missouri – TV markets of St. Louis and Kansas City
The one I don’t know is
Would NC State be willing to leave Duke and North Carolina? If they are, thats a big market to get into.
by BamaThrasher on Aug 12, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Other than a&m everyone else seems to be pretty low key. Everyone seems to be playing their cards pretty close to the vest. At this point im not real sure who I want tagging along with a&m. At what point are we as a conference TO strong? You know what i mean?
In the east the top two football earners in markets we don’t already have are Virginia Tech and West Virginia at around $30 million. It the West it is OU about $60 million and OSU at about $30 million
I say WV, VT, and whoever moves fastest, OU or OSU. Otherwise it might be A&M, OU, OSU, Missouri in the west, Bama and Auburn to the East.
I thought VT said that would decline the offer? Hold on, so your saying that this is about to move to 16 teams are did i read that wrong?
well that is a lot of speculation
For one, VT has already said they would decline and two, there is no way people are gonna start conference change just because A&M called and said they aren’t happy with Texas. For most reasonable people, I would say the thought of a conference change would take months and months of negotiations and meetings. All this crap just seems almost comical if the thought of bringing more into the perfect conference didn’t make me sick to my stomach.
I don't know.
Conference expansion never made me sick in my stomach.
ohhh, I just realized you are a razorback
lol, over here in Bama we tend to take football a little more serious I guess. So yes, I do take it this a little too serious.
And, I wan’t trying to insult you originally, just stating my opinions on the whole situation. My apologies if you took my first comment wrong.
agreed
even though cacknfire did have a good point about market exposure in Texas. It seems like a great deal for tv revenues but the thing i like about the SEC is being able to drive to any game on Saturday and that isn’t going to happen with A&M. Plus, all the schools are from our region. Texas is like a country unto itself. Ever talk to anyone from Texas? Good God, everything in Texas is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don’t relish the thought myself.
I dont take anything personal.
Also I was looking to see what people would say anyway,.
It is pretty much common knowledge
that any moves are at least a year or two down the road.
FSU is out, Florida has already said they don’t want any part of FSU coming and Florida is the dominant team in the East. And my guess is that there isn’t anyone in the ACC willing to jump ship. IF A&M comes it seems likely they will bring a Mizzou with them. I don’t see either Okie teams coming. I am still very leery of the whole thing. It wouldn’t surprise me if this isn’t posturing on A&M’s part to quash the whole longhorns network and the SEC is on it. I find it more and more difficult to believe this is all going down with weeks to go before kickoff.
I hope you are right
because I want no part of this to be honest. Basically we are messing with what has been a perfect harmony for what is essentially the Miss State of the Big 12
by BamaThrasher on Aug 12, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
"... and Florida is the dominant team in the East?"
Really? Because the presidents of Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Kentucky might take issue with you on that one.
The team who has won more division titles doesn’t automatically get a veto over any expansion vote.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 12, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, they do
But only in the Big 12
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by cocknfire on Aug 13, 2011 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why would UF....
not want FSU to join. I thought it would be the opposite as far as making the rivalry even more important/exciting. But i guess that would hurt UF’s recruiting big time because they can pull the SEC card to recruits. (It doesn’t seem to be working very well) But seriously other than being scared, why wouldn’t they want us there? We welcomed Miami when they moved to the ACC and that was when both teams were still considered powerhouses.
No one is scared of anything in these decision making processes about conference expansion. It’s all about money and money alone.
Of course FSU would want Miami in the ACC. It was supposed to create a situation where the two teams played each other in the ACC Championship Game regularly, which is a more lucrative matchup for the schools and the conference than any other pair in the league. That’s why they went with scrambled, illogical divisions rather than geography (to keep FSU and Miami in opposite sides), and why the first several ACCCGs were played in Jacksonville and Tampa despite those not being convenient travel spots for 10 of the 12 schools.
Florida has no such similar needs in the SEC. Furthermore, UF believes the SEC to be a better conference than the ACC. UF’s administration sees their school as the state’s flagship, and they don’t want there to be any confusion there. That’s why they don’t want FSU in the SEC, and for that matter, why they used political pressure to prevent FSU from getting a medical school for many years. UF is the top dog of the Florida university system, and it will use its power as such to stay there in every aspect it can.
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One thing is....
that UF can vote down FSU, but they can’t sink their membership alone. They will need at least 3 other members to reject them.
Alabama might
Just to keep some of that top flight talent we get that Florida doesn’t.
by Durdens Wrath on Aug 15, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i don’t know much about A&M but it is apparent that they do a lot of whining. Not just the fans either, the whole lot of them seem to be a bunch of bitches with no backbone.
I think it’s an undergraduate class in ’Bama.
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by Mike @ MHH on Aug 12, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you f'n kidding me dude?
They are the 9th highest grossing team in the country. They enter the season with AT LEAST ONE viable Heism@n candidate. They spawned Bear as a coach (Mama called, remember), and from that Junction, TX season, another legendary coach (Stallings).
They are 674–443–48 (.599) all time, with 18 conference and 1 national title to their name.
They are a land/air/sea grant with an endowment over $1bn.
Got anything else to add?
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 12, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it did
and the other undefeated team that year made Bill Connelly’s list of best teams ever. A&M did not. Sadly, the voters went with the Aggies.
However, they did give us the General, and that’s not nothing
Heel for school, Vol for life!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 12, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
TEAM FRANKLIN!!!
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 12, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Vandy's new coach
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 12, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, Bear Bryant got his first long-term head coaching gig at Kentucky...
… whom he led to their first SEC title.
But still, your point about the Aggies’ long, proud tradition is a valid one.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 12, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, and I know the Maryland connection too.
While he was VERY successful at Kentucky, it was A&M which is most intimately connected though (stallings, Junction, the only ring he ever wore was the SWC championship, etc).
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, actually I do
1. They didn’t spawn Coach Bryant. He was from Arkansas, he also coached at Maryland and Kentucky prior to A&M. A&M just happened to be a stopping point. That is like saying Bama spawned Dennis Francione.
2. Heisman’s don’t mean shit to me if you can’t win with them! Seriously, I am sure everyone loves a Heisman winner but who really cares if you aren’t winning football games. Come to think of it, Heisman winners normally go hand in hand with BCS championship games. Do you seriously think A&M could even come close to competing for that?
3. Yes, Coach Stallings came from Texas and still lives in Texas, big deal?
As I stated yesterday, you weren’t here so I will say it again. Texas A&M has a lot of history with the SEC. So does Georgia Tech and Tulane.
We already get
(WE= conference) talent and tvs in Atlanta and N’awlins. Houston/Dallas? Not as much. Guess what comes in now?
Guess who’s excellent academic reputation also come into play? People try to minimize it, but these are schools first, athletic conferences second.
And, lastly, it’s happening, so we might as well get used to change (and conference alignments have always been fluid).
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 12, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya looks like it’s gonna happen, so then who comes with a&m. You cant begin to believe a&m is more than a middle of the pack program…in football? If you can agree on that do when bring in a FSU or VT or one more middle of the pack programs like NC state? I’ve said this before but when does the SEC become to powerful? If we are beating ourselves up and it’s a stuggle to get out of the confernce with just one loss even doesn’t that diminsh our chances at a National Championship.
Good question
and, I would argue that if, in addition to A&M, we add the other names we’re hearing (OU, VT, FSU, Ok. St., Mizzou), then we would officially be too powerful. No way an undefeated team would likely ever emerge from this superconference.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 12, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You need to take a chill pill, dude.
You’re arguing like a Finebaum caller.
by vineyarddawg on Aug 12, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A&M....
will make a good addition. I don’t understand all the hate from some people. Whether you think A&M will be competitive or not, what does that matter? From the same people you seem to be getting the argument that the SEC is tough enough and we don’t need another strong program.
If someone doesn’t want to upset the current order then that’s fine, but why not just say that rather than trying to come up with reasons why A&M wouldn’t be a good choice.
Seems nothing is off the board right now
Asked if Pac-12 could be destination for Texas, AD DeLoss Dodds says, “I’d put that down as an option. I don’t know if it’s viable option.”
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