How Do You Prefer Your Preseason Polls?
Yesterday, I linked to a couple of preseason top 25 polls. I've linked to some others this off season, and plenty more will be coming with preview magazine season and fall practice ahead. There is a veritable cottage industry of preseason polls these days.
So with that said, what kind of preseason poll do you like? There is more than one way to do one, after all.
Projection Poll
This is the most common kind, I think, and certainly every poll regardless of intent gets judged as if it was one of these. Basically, the person putting the poll together takes a stab at predicting where teams will end up at the end of the year. The top two teams are the pollster's prediction for who will play in the national championship game, with the top team the projected national champ.
Power Poll
This kind is the next most common. It's a listing of teams based on how good the pollster thinks they are regardless of where he or she thinks they'll end up. In other words, it's like a projection poll but without allowances for schedule.
The best example I can give for the difference between power polls and projection polls is the Great Preseason Poll Debates of 2006-07. Projection poll makers tended to have West Virginia in the top two or three because they thought the team could run the table against Big East competition. Power poll makers had the Mountaineers lower because they didn't think WVU was truly one of the best two or three teams in the country. Notre Dame has the potential to be a similar kind of team this year.
Snapshot Poll
These are less common, though creators of the previous kinds like to say they actually made this kind when they whiffed on something. Basically, the pollster creates a power poll based on expected quality in Week 1. If they think a team will be shaky at first but come together later, then that team would be lower in this kind of poll than the others.
Think about Auburn of last season. The Auburn team that squeaked out wins over Mississippi State, Clemson, and South Carolina in September wasn't nearly as good as the team that won the most lopsided SEC Championship Game ever. A snapshot pollster would have been justified to have AU ranked in the 20s initially (as most did), whereas projection and power poll makers that had the Tigers that low just missed on them.
Nonexistent
There's a small but growing contingent of people who are against preseason polling of any kind. The rationale is that by setting up a preseason poll, you create poll inertia that is difficult to overcome as the season goes along. These folks usually contend that the first polls shouldn't come out until some time in October. The most high profile adherent of this train of thought is the Harris Poll, the BCS component that doesn't do a poll until into October each year.
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preseason polls serve as preemptive disqualification.
polls are like bowl games, there are too many of them.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
The REAL Enemy.
Projection Polls are what’s wrong with college football: they’re self-fulfilling prophesies and belie the general ignorance of the so-called inteligencia.
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Pretty much
It’s a big reason why LSU jumped from 7 to 2 in the last weekend of 2007.
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That and beating VT lopsidedly in October. (And yes, I’ll admit, maybe I’m biased…)
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by Andrew Tessier on May 11, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree...
LSU had the best resume to be ranked 2nd at the end of the season. The reason we jumped from 7 to 2 is because of ridiculous unspoken polling rules that state that when a team loses a game that team moves to the back of the line of teams with the same record.
LSU was more a product of mindless polling the week after the Arkansas game than poll inertia from preseason polling. We should have never been ranked 7th to begin with.
Just my opinion…
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
That too
But it was also partly from preseason expectations and partly due to the “SEC is the best conference” theme. After the dust settled from that weekend’s games, no one was quite sure who to vote for at No. 2. LSU was the SEC champ, was expected to be one of the best, had a good resume, and was “undefeated in regulation” (to quote Les), so subjectively it was a good choice.
Besides, it wasn’t rocket science to look at precedent and apply it to the teams that had been ahead of LSU. Missouri, Georgia, and Kansas were eliminated from consideration for not winning their conferences (an unwritten rule established with Florida overtaking Michigan the previous year). VT goes because it had the same record as LSU did but lost badly head-to-head, and the LSU’s SEC trumps West Virginia’s Big East every time. Just behind LSU were USC and Oklahoma, whose losses to Stanford and Colorado pretty much eliminated them. All you had left was Ohio State, and voila, you got a national championship pair.
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I voted that Power Polls were my favorite...
But really the only poll that I have a problem with is a projection poll.
Projection polls penalize a team twice. A team get’s penalized for having a tough schedule, and then the team gets penalized for performing as expected against said schedule.
I’m not even sure what the purpose of a projection poll even is. The games are going to be played. We know that we will eventually have all of the information we will ever have to evaluate the teams. So we don’t need to guess where teams will end up. We only need to assess how good a team is based on its currenty body of work…Which for a preseason poll is based on prior year’s performance + returning players + plus new impact players + coaching turnover.
Polls are necessary in college football because we don’t have regulated schedules. Since they are necessary it seems like there should be some guidance floated to the voters that ensures everyone is voting based on the same criteria. I dont’ want to miss a BCS bowl because some idiot thinks we have a tough schedule next year and ranks us 5 spots below average because of it.
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
Projection polls are the lottery tickets of college football punditry. People make them in the case that they get lucky and really come close once. They can then point to that for the rest of their career to add weight to their future punditry. “Look, I once got 8 of the top 10 correct. I know what I’m talking about.” etc.
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All you need to know to answer this is
to go and look at any preseason poll after the season is over. It will quickly cure you of thinking anyone participating has one modicum of sense about college football.
Now, a poll that started at the beginning of October? I’m all for it. That would restore some intelligence to the evaluation of teams.

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