SEC Football Schedule for 2012 Released: Georgia Wins, South Carolina Loses and Where are Arkansas and A&M Playing?
After weeks of anticipating and kvetching from fan bases expecting to be elated or upset when the expansionized SEC scheduled was going to be released -- it's finally been released. And, to much surprise, it is actually a schedule for football games to be played among members of the 14-team SEC.
We'll break down each team's scheduled a little bit more fully in short order, but here's the headlines that are likely to get some traction over the next few hours:
Georgia vs. South Carolina to October. This has already been discussed ad nauseum on blog both Dawg and Gamecock, but the two teams will take at least a one-year break from facing each other to begin the SEC season. Instead, Georgia will to go Columbia, S.C., on Oct. 6.
And while I'm sad to lose something approaching a tradition, I think this has been overblown by both sides over the years. I doubt that having the game early gives South Carolina even a marginal edge most years. The fact of the matter is that most of the seasons in which South Carolina beat the Dawgs and then swooned in November, there was a very good reason for it: South Carolina was playing teams that were superior to Georgia in November.
The only late October-early November loss to a team that did not end up ranked higher than Georgia in 2000, for example, was the defeat against Tennessee. In 2001, South Carolina lost to a Tennessee team that was in the national championship race until being upset in the SEC Championship Game and a Florida team that was in the national championship race until it lost to Tennessee late in the year. (The game had been moved from its traditional early spot because of Sept. 11.)
The only time the game being early really seemed to help South Carolina was in 2007, when South Carolina lost one of its best players against LSU and, a few weeks later, began one of the most epic collapses by a Top 10 team in college football history. Not that you can blame Georgia fans for being a bit bitter about that one -- it arguably cost the Dawgs a chance at a national title. But I have a problem whole-heartedly agreeing with even those Georgia fans who say it might have a marginal effect on the rivalry.
By the same token, South Carolina fans who present as a hallowed tradition the game being second on their schedule and the SEC opener are operating with something of a faulty memory. The Gamecocks have opened their conference schedule with another team twice in the Steve Spurrier Era alone -- in 2006, they opened the year at Mississippi State, and the second game and conference opener in 2008 was at Vanderbilt (to disastrous results). Three times in the last decade -- 2002, 2003 and 2008 -- the Gamecocks have played someone else on the second week of the season.
South Carolina still loses. That doesn't mean that moving the schedule around has no potential to hurt the Gamecocks. They now face an October buzzsaw that goes vs. Georgia, at LSU, at Florida, vs. Tennessee. If either of the last two improves significantly, that might be the toughest stretch for any team in the SEC East.
The upshot of that are cushy months to bookend the season. September features a tricky opening trip to Vanderbilt, but Missouri comes to South Carolina and the road game against Kentucky shouldn't be too bad unless Joker Phillips has discovered an offense in the interim. The only November SEC game is a home contest against Arkansas.
If South Carolina can navigate the October stretch and get to the SEC Championship Game, they'll have plenty of time to get things ready for the Georgia Dome in early December. But that's a big "if."
Ole Miss' schedule is pretty brutal as well. The Rebels' home games are Oct. 6 against Texas A&M; Oct. 13 against Auburn; Nov. 10 against Vanderbilt; and the Egg Bowl Nov. 24. That means a trip to Tuscaloosa in September, trips to Arkansas and Georgia in late October and early November and a road game against LSU on Nov. 17. Welcome to the league, Hugh Freeze.
Georgia wins. The Dawgs do indeed avoid a game against Alabama. They go to Missouri and get Vanderbilt and Tennessee at home in September; after the South Carolina game, they go to Kentucky and get the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party in October; and get Ole Miss at home and travel to Auburn in November to close out the slate.
If the 2011 conference schedule for Georgia was one of the easiest in SEC history, the Dawgs seem determined to challenge that mark. If they can win in Columbia, S.C., they should have staying power again in the SEC East race.
In the West, it's Arkansas. The Hogs are the closest thing to a winner in the West, getting home games against both of the other expected division contenders (Alabama and LSU) and only three true road games at the moment. (More on that shortly.) Alabama has to travel to both Arkansas and LSU, and its home games are mostly second-tier West teams and Auburn.
Arkansas' home games also include titanic struggles against Kentucky and Ole Miss, with only a road game against South Carolina really offsetting those. LSU gets South Carolina at home but has to travel to Florida. Alabama's interdivision opponents in Missouri and Tennessee are road games, but it's an open question how well Missouri will do in its first year in the SEC and Tennessee would have to improve dramatically to threaten the Tide.
Whither Texas A&M-Arkansas? It's no secret that Texas A&M wants to get out of the contract with Jerry Jones' Death Star in its series against Arkansas, for recruiting reasons. But the official SEC schedule still has the Sept. 29 game listed as "versus" -- suggesting a neutral site game. The smart money is that the conference doesn't want to jump the gun and will give the two schools a chance to work out the contractual issue first.
If the game is converted to a home-and-home, look for it to move to College Station in the first year. The Aggies would have just three home games under the current schedule. They will demand a home game and the rest of the SEC West will probably stand with them against giving the Hogs a fifth home game. If the Jerry Jones Death Star game goes away, it will be played in College Station is 2012.
Speaking of College Station ... If Texas won't play Texas A&M on Thanksgiving weekend, Missouri will. The upshot of that is that Missouri will play in College Station for a third straight year. Because of a Big 12 scheduling hiccup after the last round of conference realignment, the Tigers went to Texas A&M in 2010 and 2011. Now, they go there a third time.
Other bits. Florida will open conference play (as expected) against Texas A&M, upending its game against Tennessee as the traditional opener, though that game will still be on Sept. 15; Alabama at Tennessee will actually be the Third Saturday in October this year after missing the date for a few years; Florida and Alabama are the only teams to play both the newcomers, meaning Missouri will not have a game against neighbor Arkansas.
The whole schedule:
Aug. 30
South Carolina at Vanderbilt
Sept. 8
Auburn at Mississippi State
Florida at Texas A&M
Georgia at Missouri
Sept. 15
Alabama at Arkansas
Florida at Tennessee
Sept. 22
LSU at Auburn
Kentucky at Florida
Vanderbilt at Georgia
Missouri at South Carolina
Sept. 29
Ole Miss at Alabama
Arkansas vs. Texas A&M
Tennessee at Georgia
South Carolina at Kentucky
Oct. 6
Mississippi State at Kentucky
Arkansas at Auburn
LSU at Florida
Georgia at South Carolina
Texas A&M at Ole Miss
Vanderbilt at Missouri
Oct. 13
Alabama at Missouri
Kentucky at Arkansas
Auburn at Ole Miss
Florida at Vanderbilt
South Carolina at LSU
Tennessee at Mississippi State
Oct. 20
Alabama at Tennessee
Auburn at Vanderbilt
South Carolina at Florida
Georgia at Kentucky
LSU at Texas A&M
Oct. 27
Ole Miss at Arkansas
Texas A&M at Auburn
Florida vs. Georgia (Jacksonville)
Kentucky at Missouri
Tennessee at South Carolina
Mississippi State at Alabama
Nov. 3
Alabama at LSU
Missouri at Florida
Ole Miss at Georgia
Vanderbilt at Kentucky
Texas A&M at Mississippi State
Nov. 10
Texas A&M at Alabama
Arkansas at South Carolina
Georgia at Auburn
Mississippi State at LSU
Vanderbilt at Ole Miss
Missouri at Tennessee
Nov. 17
Arkansas at Mississippi State
Ole Miss at LSU
Tennessee at Vanderbilt
Nov. 24
Auburn at Alabama
LSU at Arkansas
Kentucky at Tennessee
Mississippi State at Ole Miss
Missouri at Texas A&M
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Huh?
I think you are mixing up Florida and Georgia in your essay (Florida begins SEC play against TAM, not Missouri; Gators play SC prior to the WLOCP)
Interesting that neither Gators nor Bulldogs have a bye week prior to game in Jax.
Yeah, both teams lost their bye.
The Gators get the tougher opponent, but Georgia’s trip to Lexington is the second-longest road trip they’ll take all year… and Kentucky won’t automatically be as abjectly horrible as they were this year.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
The A&M-Missouri thing was a mistake
The South Carolina thing was a bit garbled by syntax; I meant that the October slate after South Carolina included Kentucky and Florida for Georgia. Tried to fix that
I agree that the lack of the bye for either team for the first time in a long time is mildly interesting
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As a Georgia fan
I’m okay not getting the bye, so long as Florida doesn’t either. I’m tired of them getting that bye every time, and Georgia only getting it every 3-4 years. Not saying that’s why we lost to them, since they were obviously better than us for years, but why give them another advantage?
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wow, that South Carolina October is rough
almost as bad as Tennessee’s October was this year. I am very sorry.
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 12:56 PM EST reply actions
What is this about Ark vs. A&M not playing in Jerry's World being about recruiting?
Texas plays OU in Dallas every year and the home team gets to host recruits each year.
Is this an SEC rule about not hosting recruits at neutral sites, because I don’t think it is a NCAA rule?
I suspect that this is about A&M wanting to get kids on their campus and the fact that they only made $2.9M last year in Dallas when the budget estimated $5M. But, before I go calling them liars again I would love to know if there is any such rule in the SEC about not allowing the home to host recruits at neutral sites. This just doesn’t sound right to me.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
NCAA rules
NCAA does not allow schools to host kids on “official” visits to neutral sites bu they do allow unofficial visits. (Neutral site is a venue where a team does not play at least 2 times in a year). The recruits can attend for an “unofficial” visit for either team. So, the kids are on their own dime if they attend, that is the only real diffrence.
We're Texas, We're not OK.
ask Florida and Georgia fans
they’re the ones who would know
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, there are no official visits in Jacksonville.
Which is good, because I’m sure there would be a looooot of secondary recruiting violations if there were.
/It ain’t called the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party for nothin’.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I think Bama got screwed as much as anyone...
… which is surprising.
They traded home games against Vandy and Georgia for one home game against Texas A&M and an away game to Missou.
Trading Missou for Georgia might be a lateral move, but the game also switched from home to away. And trading Vandy for aTm is a big trade-up.
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counterpoint
Alabama has 4 SEC West home games and only 2 SEC West road games
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
also, that Vandy game next year was supposed to be away, not home as you claim
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Blast you and your damned facts.
My bad. So, technically they traded a Georgia home game for aTm and a Vandy away game for Missou.
So the Georgia/aTm was probably a wash, and maybe even a step up depending on how good the Aggies are. Trading Vandy for Missou definitely isn’t doing the Tide any favors, though.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
you rate the Ags higher than I do or the Dawgs lower
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I am a Georgia fan who grew up listening to Munson.
So, you know… we’ll be lucky to beat Georgia Southern next year.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
...still love the fact that that game is before Tech.
Big ups to whoever thought that up.
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SEC Games
SEC wins or losses count the same no matter what the division.
by Kenny483 on Dec 28, 2011 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and?
you have a home chance to knock four of your division rivals down in the standings. Ordinarily, that number would be three.
At any rate, trading Vandy (away) and Georgia (home) for Missouri (away) and A&M (home) is hardly what I’d call getting screwed.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
And the two away games are LSU and ARKY
You can bunch Ole Miss, Miss St., Kentucky, Tenn. together as a ‘who gives a crap where we play them’ game because it’s a sure win.
I don't see it this way
I think Georgia is considerably better than Mizzou and in my opinion aTm is only slightly better than Vandy right now.
by coastalrazorback on Dec 28, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think we got screwed here.
Although it wouldn’t be surprising if we did because we’re kinda used to it. We had 6 opponents coming off bye weeks in 2010 and another 4 this season. I think we have 2 in 2012 so that’s more reasonable.
The only thing about this schedule I don’t like is that our bye week comes in week 6 instead of week 8 which is more typical. LSU will get a bye week before playing us at their place next year so they should definitely be favored for that game.
In better news, the TSIO will actually be on the TSIO this year. It’s not that that really matters, but I’m a little anal retentive and I need that type of structure in my life…
One question...
Are both Mizz and A&M are in the West now, or is it A&M in the West and Mizz in the East?
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
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And no, that doesn't make any "sense" when you go talking about "geography" and everything
But that’s it
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Never has mattered
Somehow Vanderbilt ended up in East and Auburn in the West when the divisions were first created in 1992.
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I still contend that the split makes geographical sense
it’s just the names that don’t
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
With one exception:
Tennessee should always have been in the west. Their most-played historical rivals before the 1992 divisional split were mostly in the west, with the exception of Vanderbilt and Kentucky. So Tennessee should have been in the West, and their permanent cross-division rival could have been either Vandy or UK.
Auburn should have been in the East, too, since their three biggest rivals before ’92 were Georgia, Alabama, and Florida.
Things change, though, and the divisions have created new rivalries over the last 20 years, as will this new round of changes.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 28, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
My grandfather still misses the yearly tilt with Ole Miss
But then, he’s an old school Dawg.
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Yeah, I enjoyed the annual Ole Miss series, as well.
We preserved it for a while after the divisional split, since there were two permanent cross-divisional rivals for a while. Now we get to go to places like Starkville and Fayetteville just as frequently as we go to Oxford.
Man, did we get the short end of the stick on that one.
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by vineyarddawg on Dec 29, 2011 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
I meant the new split, not the old one
it’s just a diagonal line instead of a vertical one.
As far as Tennessee being in the West, people make that argument and forget one huge detail. Yes, three of Tennessee’s five yearly rivalries were in the West. However, one of those teams is the one you propose moving East to replace Tennessee (Auburn). So if the Vols had moved West, we would’ve talked about how three of Tennessee’s five yearly rivalries were in the East. UT lost two rivalry games no matter how the split was done. And this maintained the three that had been played every year since forever (Bama, UK, Vandy).
If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 29, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions

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