How Much Do Bye Weeks Matter?
I'm personally staying out of the debate about whether or not the SEC should move schedules around because Alabama is facing six teams coming off of a bye week. I haven't followed the whole process closely enough to give an informed opinion on it.
What I can do is pull out some stats (and if you've read this site much in the past, the only surprise is that I haven't done so already). I took a look at SEC teams coming off of bye weeks from 2002-09, an eight-season span. I excluded all games where both teams had a bye week before the contest as that, in theory, would negate any advantage having a bye week presents. I also threw out any games against non-BCS opponents because I don't care how you did against Tulane or Western Kentucky after a week off.
There were 109 games that fit those criteria. I am using the same rules as I did in my piece from a couple years ago on upsets in the SEC. A game where the teams finished with the same number of wins plus or minus one is a tossup; if the final win difference between teams is two or more, then it's a mismatch. I'll also reference those numbers when comparing teams coming off of bye weeks versus overall games; they don't quite cover exactly the same data set, but they're close enough for my purposes (since I don't have time at the moment to add to them).
Mismatches where the team coming off the bye week was favored.
There were 40 such contests in the span I looked at, and the favored team coming off of a bye week went 34-6 (.850). In overall games from my last upset study, the favored team went 203-22 (.902). The sample set sizes are a bit different, so it may just be noise that favored teams ended up doing worse coming off of a bye week than overall games. Either way, it certainly not a clear advantage to be coming off of a bye week as the favored team.
The upsets, if you're curious, are as follows: 2002 South Carolina (5 wins) over Kentucky (7), 2003 Vanderbilt (2) over Kentucky (4), 2003 Florida (8) over LSU (13), 2003 Texas Tech (8) over Ole Miss (10), 2005 Tennessee (5) over LSU (11), and 2008 Tennessee (5) over Kentucky (7).
You'll note that only two games actually involved a difference in total wins of more than two, and both times it was LSU losing. In 2003, the loss to Ron Zook's Gators is inexplicable on just about every level. The loss to Tennessee in 2005 came just a couple of weeks after Hurricane Katrina, so I think the Tigers can be forgiven for that. In either case, a titanic upset only occurred when a freak of nature was involved.
Mismatches where the team coming off the bye week was not favored.
There were 37 such contests in the span I looked at, and the underdogs coming off of bye weeks were 6-31 (.162). In overall games, underdogs were 22-203 (.098). The same caveat about sample size applies, so again, the difference could just be noise. Still, it would appear that there is some kind of advantage presented for underdogs coming off of bye weeks versus underdogs overall.
Let's take a look at those six wins, shall we? They were: 2002 Florida (8) over Georgia (13), 2003 Florida (8) over Georgia (11), 2004 Mississippi State over Florida (7), 2008 Mississippi State (4) over Vanderbilt (7), 2008 Tennessee (5) over Kentucky Vanderbilt (7), and South Carolina (7) over Clemson (9).
Half of these six games involve the random number generator that is the Zooker, with his two wins over UGA and the game that cost him his job. The other three were all very close in win count, with the widest gap being a game where Vanderbilt, of all teams, was the one getting upset. In the most recent one, it wasn't even an SEC team that lost. So while it initially appears that coming off a bye week helps underdogs, I don't know if we can say that strongly after looking at the actual upset wins.
The tossups.
Here's where the rubber meets the road. With the mismatches, the team that was supposed to win did so more than 84 percent of the time regardless of the situation. Underdogs coming off bye weeks maybe were helped out a little bit, and favorites if anything underachieved.
In tossups, we should see teams coming off of bye weeks winning more than half of the time if there really is some kind of advantage. Right? Right.
Unfortunately, that's not what the numbers say. Teams coming off of bye weeks in tossup games are just 13-19 (.406). At home, they're an even .500 (8-8) and on the road they're just 4-11 (.267). There was one neutral site tossup where Florida (9 wins) beat Georgia (10) in 2005, but D.J. Shockley's injury played a much bigger role in the Bulldogs' loss than UF's bye week did.
I know some of you might think that home field advantage is hurting the road teams here, but home field advantage is not that strong. If anything coming off of a bye week in a tossup is a clear disadvantage, because what little home field advantage exists has disappeared and road teams perform dismally.
So how much do bye weeks matter?
In three of the four situations I looked at, coming off of a bye week was a hindrance if it had an effect at all. In the case of underdogs, coming off of a bye week might help if it does anything at all. While for the most part bye weeks make little difference, the fact that Alabama is projected to be really good actually puts them into the one situation where opponents off of bye weeks are more dangerous than usual.
Let's look at the five teams coming off bye weeks that Alabama currently has scheduled (I'm ignoring LSU since the Tide have a bye week before that contest too). They are: Auburn at home, Ole Miss at home, Mississippi State at home, South Carolina on the road, and Tennessee on the road.
You might disagree, but I think Alabama will end up as a favorite in at least three of those games. I don't see Bama winning fewer than 10 games this fall, so even at the most pessimistic projection for the Tide a squad would have to win nine games to get to tossup range. Mississippi State and Tennessee definitely aren't getting to nine, and South Carolina probably won't either. Ole Miss might I suppose, since the Rebels have gotten to nine each of the past two seasons. Auburn has the best chance of them all, so I'm going to pencil that in as a tossup and the rest as mismatches.
Based solely on the numbers above, Alabama has a 36.1 percent chance of winning all five games if only the Iron Bowl (a road game for the Tigers) is a tossup. What if none of those teams came off of a bye week? Well, let's use the .902 winning percentage for overall favorites and give home teams in tossups a 55 percent chance of winning (a mild home field advantage). In that case, Alabama has a 36.4 percent chance of winning all five. In this instance, there's no real difference.
But supposed Alabama is a true favorite in all five games. If no opponents came off of bye weeks, the Tide's chances of a sweep are 59.8 percent. With all five coming off of a bye, their chances of a sweep fall all the way to 41.3 percent.
Paradoxically, the argument could be made that Alabama probably being good is a reason in favor of moving some opponents' games around instead of against it since that gap is gigantic. If all five were tossups, Bama would actually have a better chance of a sweep (9.9 percent) if all five opponents came off of a bye than if none did (3.4 percent). Go figure.
Overall counts.
Last section, I promise.
Here's how many games each team has had to play against another SEC team coming off of a bye without coming off of a bye themselves:
- Alabama: 18
- Florida: 13
- Tennessee: 11
- Auburn: 9
- Vanderbilt: 8
- Arkansas:7
- Georgia: 7
- LSU: 7
- South Carolina: 6
- Kentucky: 5
- Mississippi State: 5
- Ole Miss: 4
The SEC scheduling program seems to give Alabama and Florida the most of these types of games, though with the Tide clearly out ahead. If I had to guess, I'd say it's because Alabama and Florida are alphabetically first in each division and Alabama first overall, but that's completely conjecture.
Anyway, only two teams have had four of these kinds of games in one season, making Alabama's current five unprecedented. The first was 2003 Alabama, which lost the three games it was supposed to lose and won the one game it was supposed to win. The second was 2008 Tennessee, which was an underdog in all four but did pull one upset. Five teams have had three of these games: 2002 Florida, 2005 Arkansas, and 2007-09 Alabama.
Now, I don't know how and when the SEC tweaks its scheduling algorithm, but it seems to be getting worse about matching teams up with those coming off of bye weeks. Four of the seven occasions since 2002 where a team has faced three or more teams off of bye weeks have happened in the past three seasons, and it cued up a whopping five for the Tide in 2010.
Something needs to be done about this regardless of whether Bama's 2010 slate gets tweaked or not. If nothing gets moved, Alabama's lead over Florida in this department swells to ten over nine years. When No. 1 is out in front by more than a game per year, something is definitely wrong.
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LSU/UT '05
Keep in mind also that the Tigeaux had a big lead in that game but choked it away. Also, UT was at least playing decent ball at that point in the year.
I can't even imagine the amount of research it would require ...
but it would be interesting to see this as a progression of odds of victory as bye week opponents mount up. The complaint Bama fans have isn’t that so many teams will get an extra week to game plan. It’s that week in and week out, the team they will be facing will have had an extra week to heal. At one point in the season, Alabama will come off a game against Florida to face a rested Cocks squad. They’ll come off that game to face a rested Rebels squad. They’ll then come off that game to face a rested Vols team. Strategy aside, that’s physically brutal.
Because no one has had to do it before, it’s impossible to say for sure.
Plus, no matter how you measure it, there’s always going to be some kind of circular reasoning going on. You can really only measure a team by what it actually did, no matter what you believe it should have done. And you can’t separate out the games against rested teams versus non-rested teams that well because the sample set of one season is too small.
To my mind, it’s not even that much a factor of rest as it is recovery. Maybe if a team is switching to a new system that is far more taxing than the old one like Auburn’s offense last year, it could be. However, getting healing up from injuries is in my experience the more important function of a bye week. That may be splitting hairs though.
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by Year2 on Apr 15, 2010 6:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm kinda busy with my mma blogs but how many of those alabama games are at their homefield?
the games the oppossing team is coming off bye weeks?
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 15, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
coming off a bye week.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 15, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Two of the five teams
coming off of byes will be road games. Those are South Carolina, and Tennessee.
Excellent points
I would suspect (but I do not know) that the numbers much more strongly favor teams coming off of bye weeks in the NFL, where paid professionals playing a longer season derive physical and mental benefits from an off week (hence the value of a bye week in the playoffs). With amateur college athletes playing unbalanced schedules, a bye week is merely one of many variables, and oftentimes longer layoffs can be disadvantageous psychologically (e.g., Georgia reading its own press clippings for two weeks after beating Florida in 1997, then turning around and losing to an inferior Auburn team in a night game at home) or physically (i.e., in an admittedly extreme example, Ohio State in its last two national championship game losses). I lost my faith in open dates after last year’s Cocktail Party.
The one point you made with which I had a significant quarrel was this: “In 2003, the loss to Ron Zook’s Gators is inexplicable on just about every level.” Nick Saban said at the time that he saw a lackluster effort in practice the week before, when LSU was unfocused before facing a talented and dangerous Florida team that other teams overlooked at their peril because the Gators’ record was worse than it ought to have been. (Bear in mind that the 2003 Gators finished in a three-way tie for first place in the East. They weren’t exactly awful, just inconsistent.) That LSU team probably would have beaten that Florida team nine times out of ten, but the mere fact that it was exceptional doesn’t make it inexplicable.
Go 'Dawgs!
Right
I was actually fortunate enough to be at that ’03 Florida-LSU game, and from everything I gather, I was cheated out of the real Death Valley experience.
The LSU team was lifeless. The crowd was lifeless. On the LSU post game call-in show, the hosts even declared that the Tiger band gave a C- performance. They came out expecting to win simply by showing up, and it cost them the game. Happens all the time. That’s not what I meant by inexplicable, though you’re right that I probably should have used a different word. LSU was by far the better team with by far the better coach. It was at home coming off a bye week. Florida has no business winning that game.
That’s the thing I’ll never understand about Ron Zook. When his team is decent, he can pull surprising upsets. He beat 13-1 Georgia in ‘02, 13-1 LSU in ’03, scored Florida’s first win since the ‘80s at Tallahassee in ’04, and even beat national title game-participating Ohio State in ’07. He wasn’t bad in the big games; it was just the small ones he threw away constantly.
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Perception is everything
That ‘03 UF/LSU game is a WTF upset in retrospect; at the time it didn’t seem absolutely impossible. LSU was given an absolute gift by Billy Bennett to escape Georgia and weren’t really playing like the class of the conference they ended up becoming.
But this is probably just semantics.
by D.N. Nation on Apr 16, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
"’03 Florida-LSU game, and from everything I gather, I was cheated out of the real Death Valley experience."
Really? That’s one of the games I remember like it was yesterday. When Skyler Green returned that kick for a touchdown, the place lit up and I clearly recall thinking “Dear God. We’re going to win the national championship.” Then of course the Zooker magic took over and the Gators shut down our offense entirely.
To the extent the crowd was lifeless, it was lifeless in the 4th quarter when the Tigers were down 19-7 with no real chance of a comeback. Then we completed one long pass, and the student section roared, but only because we couldn’t see that all the way down inside the Florida 20 Devery had fumbled. Pretty sure I got drunk after that game. Good times.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Apr 16, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Year2
for actually bringing in logic to this “debate” and not adding to the crazy..
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
Some small mistake-catching
You used the UT/UK game in 2008 for both the favorite and the underdog section. It should be in the underdog section, as it was UK with the bye and the better season.
Also, I’ve seen a lot of Bama fans claiming that no other team has ever had to face more than two teams coming off a bye. I knew that was crap (because I remembered UT having to recently), but thanks for doing the research to confirm that it was crap. This is not to say that the schedule isn’t ridiculous or that Alabama doesn’t have a genuine complaint (and more of one than others have had), but it ain’t like this is the first time the schedule has been ridiculous.
by Incipient_Senescence on Apr 16, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
Drat
Thanks for the correction. The game I was looking for in the other one was Tennessee over Vanderbilt, not Kentucky.
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If you are going to win your 14th ncaa national championship in college football......
it should not be an easy journey to do it. To me it’s quite fair.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 16, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
good read
Makes up for the trash I read on the other article.
Btw, from working with stats in general, those small margins of differences you are seeing is common. Game of inches.

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