SEC Football Topics For Discussion // Week 13 // 11.28.10
Championship Week begins right now: Who you got? In this corner, Auburn, which spent its season coming back from two- and three-score deficits with one of the best offenses the league has ever seen powered by the best player ... well, at least since Tim Tebow in 2007 and 2008. In the other corner, a Head Ball Coach who knows a thing or two about winning the SEC and whose team took Auburn to the wire in the regular-season game. South Carolina's play hasn't always been a thing of beauty, but it has been effective; Auburn was one of its three losses and another was against a team that is likely to play in the BCS. (On the subject of the Kentucky game, I got nothing.) The other game was arguably lost by the kind of turnovers Stephen Garcia hasn't made in a while and one of the worst decisions of Steve Spurrier's coaching career, when he decided that behind at Auburn was the perfect time for Connor Shaw's SEC debut. If Spurrier plays this game a little smarter, could he pull off his greatest upset yet?
Did Robbie Caldwell ever get a fair chance at Vanderbilt? Caldwell had no real chance to prepare for the season and took over a team facing at least an outside chance of a winless season. His team didn't always look good, but who could have been expected to do well under such challenging circumstances? And who can be expected to do better at Vanderbilt? Sorry to break it to any Commodore fans that don't already realize this, but Gus Malzahn is not going to Nashville. And the pool of programs looking for head coaches has already apparently grown by two, with the firing of Randy Shannon at Miami and the reported retirement of Bill Stewart in West Virginia. And with other jobs already in play and the dominoes that could fall as some programs poach other coaches, the Commodores could be in for a long search.
Speaking of Shannon -- are you ready for the rumors about Richt, Georgia fans? Whether you want to hear it or not, the talk is already out there that one of Miami's first calls will go to former Hurricane quarterback Mark Richt. Could Georgia fans go from debating whether to keep Richt to hoping they can? Richt has always said he wants to stay in Athens, and has never given anyone a reason to doubt what he says, but could he finally be fed up with feeling like he's under siege every year? (Like dealing with the Miami fan base would be a solution to that, but anyway.) Some reports have Miami waiting to see if Richt is fired or resigned; I don't see that happening. But if he's ready for a graceful exit and his alma mater calls ...
Best quarterback in the SEC East in 2011 2010: Tyler Bray, Stephen Garcia or Aaron Murray? If you think there's another candidate in the race, feel free to name him. But with all the rebuilding that has to be done in Gainesville, these guys are likely to be the anchors of three of the favorites, even if Florida can't be counted out of the race just because of one bad year. Sure, Bray won most of his games when the team had nothing to lose and Murray played best when the competition was worst, but that's how you break in SEC quarterbacks if you get the chance. And if you can figure out what that means for the divisional race, more power to you; it looks like a giant jigsaw puzzle to me. Then again, does anybody know who's the favorite in the West if Cam Newton and Ryan Mallett both go pro?
Meanwhile, how do they fix things in Florida? Firing Steve Addazio is obviously the most important step on the list, but is it the only one, or are there deeper issues that need to be addressed? (Finding just one quarterback would also be a priority if you asked me, but what do I know?) You would think that Urban Meyer gets at least 2011 as a mulligan before having to worry about things to much, but this is Florida that we're talking about here. Remember that Steve Spurrier once left because he thought the bar had been raised too high.
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1. Robbie Caldwell seems like a great guy, but he was foisted off on Vandy by Bobby Johnson in what I think was extremely unethical and completely disrespectful abuse of his position toward a University that deserved better than to be treated like that, and had to accept it only because Johnson had failed so miserably to improve its standing in the football world.
2. You’re right Malzahn isn’t leaving Auburn for the Dores.
3. If I was the Vandy A.D., I’d interview Randy Shannon (I’m shocked he got fired by the U), Ken Niumatalolo of Navy and Larry Fedora of So. Miss. I might also see what Al Golden of Temple is thinking career-wise.
4. I don’t see Richt leaving UGA unless he’s pushed out. I don’t know who the Dawgs think theyll get if they nuke him or coerce him to leave.
5. Anyhow, the list of stud ex-NFL coaches who might be legitmately interested in a major D1 program (like UGA) is pretty much limited to Gruden I think … who I think will return to the pro ranks anyway.
6. In terms of super top notch D1 coaches who might be willing to coach between the Hedges … maybe Harbaugh at Stanford or Gary Patterson of TCU. Other than those two, it seems like pretty thin pickings for a school with UGA’s history and expecations. Im sure Im missing someone, but the top guys seem pretty happy. I dont see Chris Petersen leaving Boise for UGA, or UGA particularly wanting him. They’re some great assistants around the SEC, but none scream “head coach at the University of Georgia” to me.
7. Of course, I dont think it would be very difficult to lure Tommy Tuberville., Phil Fulmer or Mike Leach to Athens, but all things being equal I’d stick with CMR another year!
They wore garnet helmets.
I agree about Caldwell...
I have nothing against the guy, but Johnson sort of forced Vandy to hire him, and Vandy is entitled to perform a legit search if they so desire.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 28, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Randy Shannon to Vandy
is intriguing. Mario Cristobal, who just guided FIU to bowl-eligibility and who played at UM, is someone the ’Canes should consider.
No way Richt leaves Athens this year for Miami or anywhere else. And he’s not being pushed out. Talk to me about this time in ’11.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Nov 28, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Excellent point
Ive put myself into a metaphysical solipism. But I still think I’m right, generally speaking
… :-)
They wore garnet helmets.
I totally agree with you
and I also think that Vandy’s grand no athletic department experiment is doing them no favors if they’re actually interested in improving their football program.
- As for the HBC pulling off his “greatest” upset – Carolina was favored heading in to that game. Auburn had just pulled out a squeaker against Clemson and Newton was still the underachieving backup to Tebow. The plainsmen werent even in the SEC west conversation, let alone the MNC picture.
- Aaron Murray has the best prospects for ‘11 (I’m assuming you meant ’11 in that line). Showing solid decision making as a freshman, heck of an arm and can scramble well. No offense to Garcia, who has won some clutch games – but he is volatile and a high-beta candidate.
- Fix the Gators? eh…i just edited everything I wrote. I’ll save it for a Gator board.
You sold me...queer giraffes.
I agree that Garcia is third
Not really sure we have enough data to decide between Murray and Bray though. Murray I think will have a better team around him. Bray graduates his top three pass catchers, and that O-line of 4 freshman and one sophomore will still be young next year (four sophomores and one junior, unless a true freshman takes over a spot).
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 28, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'll swallow my pride and say Garcia is third, too...
I don’t think inconsistency and mistakes are any longer his problems, though. He’s settled in nicely and performs at a consistently above-average level now. However, after hoping for three seasons, I don’t think he’s ever going to have pinpoint down-field accuracy. Next year he may rush for more yards if he learns how to execute the zone-read better and I hope he fumbles less, but that’s the only improvement I think we can reasonably hope for. As freshmen, on the other hand, Murray and Bray both appear to have better accuracy and touch on deep throws, and they still have time to improve.
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by Gamecock Man on Nov 28, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agree on Murray vs. Bray
I have seen more of Bray and his deep is a thing of beauty, but I’ve been quite impressed with what I’ve seen from Murray as well.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
I think Charlie Strong gets a look from Miami
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Best QB for Generic State, or best season in 2011?
Most talented is probably Murray, but I’ll take Garcia’s 2011 season. He’s losing one starter on the OL that took the field vs. Alabama and Florida. He’ll have the better line and offensive weapons surrounding him.
I think Murray could be the best GA QB of the Richt era, but leave Athens without ever finishing higher than third in the East. Two of his O-line have serious NFL decisions to make and one graduates. If the linemen jump along with Green, the offense could look worse than the one we saw in the first quarter of the year than the last, and he could depart as a top five pick after 2011 as a RS SO,
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
by GwinnettGamecock on Nov 28, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

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