Kenny Rogers Changes His Tune, Implicates Cecil Newton [UPDATED]
Kenny Rogers has gone back on his initial denials of being involved with the Cam Newton pay-for-play scandal. Kevin Scarbinsky of the Birmingham Times has the first write up I've found on it.
Rogers now claims that he and Cecil Newton got together with two Mississippi State coaches the night before last year's Egg Bowl to discuss where Cam would go. Rogers quotes Newton as saying "it's not going to be free this time" and told them it would take between $100,000-$180,000 to sign his son. Rogers still denies being involved with Auburn at all, claiming he only ever dealt with Mississippi State.
Rogers's lawyer says there was never any discussions about Rogers getting a cut of this money, and also that only the NCAA and not the FBI has contacted them. Rogers says he's going back on his earlier denials to clear the air about his involvement.
Rogers also mentioned a MSU booster and former player Bill Bell as a go between for he and John Bond. That would explain both Rogers and Bond denying ever having talked to each other as well as Bond's statement about having a couple people in between himself and the former player who was soliciting money (now confirmed to be Rogers). The Clarion-Ledger has been trying to contact Bell for the last 24 hours with no luck.
Rogers's new story basically confirms the original reports from ESPN and the New York Times.
Auburn still has deniability here, as Rogers is adamant about never dealing with the school. You just have to wonder whether Cecil Newton would suddenly drop his demands for money and have his son go somewhere other than the school he wanted to.
The NCAA told the Birmingham News that even soliciting cash for a player without ever receiving it is a violation. That means that even if Cam Newton never knew about his father's alleged actions and Auburn never paid up, his eligibility is in jeopardy if Rogers's claims are true.
Both Auburn and Mississippi State declined to comment about Rogers's interview. Someone who isn't Cecil Newton answered the phone at his residence and denied knowing where he was.
UPDATE
Bill Bell told ESPN this evening that Cecil Newton was asking for money in exchange for Cam Newton signing with Mississippi State. Bell said he spoke with an NCAA investigator earlier this week about it, but declined to comment further.
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You guys certainly know more than me on the SEC conference.
When did the practice of “donating” money to the family’s church begin with recruiting players? It’s starting to get some headlines out west. Plus i’m sure other conferences have done this so i’m not picking on the SEC. Just curious.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 11, 2010 6:25 PM EST reply actions
heh...
These sorts of schemes have been going on since at least the 1930s, and it’s certainly not just a southern thing. It’s certainly not as common now, but there was a time in which it would have been considered “very unwise” not to attended Old State U if you lived in said state.
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Can you provide a link to one of those articles? I’ve wondered about that angle myself and I’d be interested to read them. Should we all be ducking?
For what it’s worth, take a good look at Cecil Newton’s alleged quote: “It’s not going to be free this time.” To me that indicates that he didn’t ask for money during Newton’s recruitment to Florida. That’s obviously a good thing for UF.
I’m not going to sit here and tell you that no one’s on the take, but I like to believe most players aren’t. Primarily because I like to think that most players and parents want to do things the right way and not get their schools in trouble. There are bad apples out there, but I stop short at throwing up my hands and assuming every high profile recruit requires more than a scholarship when picking a school.
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Just more proof that Urban Meyer is behind the whole thing!
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
I knew I probably shouldn't have added that last line
Because I’m not actually worried in any rational sense, and I think the “this time” quote from Kenny Rogers certainly led to more than a few sighs of relief. I think sketchy stuff happens everywhere, but if even half the things related to the Newton saga are true, this is straight out of the state of Texas circa 1985.
headlines might have been the wrong word. i heard it on a local televsion station in las vegas so.....
it was the sports tv headlines of that day. it took maybe 45 seconds of the sportcaster’s time. vegas just loves scandals. remember jerry tarkanian. (the unlv basketball coach) the picture of those unlv basketball players in the jacuzzi with richard perry (now in the infamous blackbook, perry) i still remember that. the tv stations had a field day with the towel biting coach.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 12, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
thats funny. i wonder where mr. perry is now? he could still live in neveda just like ron harris does
the blackbook or griffin book just states you can’t enter casino’s. ron harris was a guy who worked for the gaming control board and he figured out a way to cheat video keno. machines. extremely bright guy but he should have kept it too himself b/c he told his cousin and his cousin was the one who got caught and then turned in mr . harris. this guy knew most of the numbers that were coming out of the supposed random number generator. i’m surprised they never made a movie about this guy.
Why do canadians stick together? The same reason why Chris Horodecki turned his body and face around in his first WEC fight.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 12, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Also, enjoy the latest salvo from AuburnSports
Kenny Rogers is a bad guy, y’all! He is totally discredited because he sort of misled a former player and his family, presumably causing some unnamed negative consequences!
http://www.auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1151578
This is just getting ridiculous. Should we start monitoring Google Trends for “WHAT IS BILL BELL HIDING?!??!?!?”
Is it just me or does it strike anyone else as bad that Mississippi State was supposedly aware of violations right after the Egg Bowl?
Yet they continue to not only recruit Cam Newton but don’t report anything till after he switches his commitment to Auburn. I can see this coming back to hit State as well as Auburn if the allegations are true. Especially after Kenny Rogers latest interview. You would think by now that someone would issue a firm, concrete denial if there wasn’t some substance in the allegations. Of course this still could all be hearsay that can’t be backed up by hard evidence even if it is true if the people involved covered themselves effectively enough. I just want to know who did what so this can all be resolved and not have to wait several years like with the Reggie Bush case. Or is this a normal time gap for coaches/school being aware to making the SEC office aware of violations?
Miss St hasn’t exactly covered itself in glory so far, it’s true. But, to paraphrase cocknfire quoting Year2, the answer to all questions involving Miss St’s compliance efforts is “Renardo Sidney.”
I guess I can sort of see that.
Though it still doesn’t explain a two month gap in reporting between November and January. I think I could buy a month delay but not much more for reported violations of NCAA regulations as major and serious as this.
by Jalakin on Nov 12, 2010 9:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bond reported it in December. MSU then reported it to the SEC in January. I don’t know the timing of everything, but if Bond’s allegation was made in mid-to-late December, it may be that the school waiting until after the holidays to make its report to the conference.
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Moreover, this article suggests that MSU is going at it alone in the reporting: http://college-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/25775927
SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said Wednesday evening that there was also no mention of the reported conversations in either of the school’s reports to the league.
I’m sure the commish is on the phone right now talking to MSU about this. Maybe.
by AuburnMisfit on Nov 12, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
This has probably been covered at some point.
But why would MSU continue to try and recruit Cameron Newton if they were aware of illegal activities after the Egg Bowl? I’m really curious about any potential answer, bc I don’t understand it.
by Jalakin on Nov 12, 2010 5:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions

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