What We Learned: September 5
Because it's never too early for snap decisions.
Alabama is probably just fine.
Statistically, Alabama was just about flawless. The Tide rolled up 500 yards of offense on one of the best defenses annually, gave up just 155 yards themselves, and held Virginia Tech to just two conversions on 12 third downs. Here's the rub though: they only won by 10 with all that in their favor.
Even so, that's just how VT rolls. Even when getting dominated statistically, they still find a way to stay in games. McElroy was great once he found his groove, the rushing attack looks superb between Mark Ingram and Roy Upchurch, and they won time of possession by 15 minutes. Don't worry so much about that final score. Bama is for real again.
Ohio State is still in good shape for USC.
I watched the majority of the Ohio State-Navy game and the first half of the USC-San Jose State game. Ohio State looked dominant in the first half, and then sleepwalked through the second half while thinking the game was in hand. After two quarters, OSU was on pace for a 40-14 win and it absolutely looked like that was where it was going. If the first half Ohio State team shows up next week, they're in great shape.
USC meanwhile, wasn't quite as impressive as the score indicated. The offensive line got pushed around by San Jose State's defense on inside runs sometimes, and roughly 75% of Matt Barkley's passing yards were yards after the catch. In fact, every throw I saw him make was on play action or a play action bootleg. Apparently the USC coaches didn't think he was ready to throw straight up against a WAC defense.
USC blew out SJSU because it had superior personnel. The got their playmakers in space and let them out-talent the Spartans. That won't be enough to win in Columbus though.
Georgia should be in wait and see mode.
The answer is a resounding yes, Georgia is missing Matthew Stafford and Knowshon Moreno. But unless you were trying to be needlessly contrarian this off season, you knew that was going to be the case. The offense has some issues, and the Bulldogs better hope that getting Joe Cox healed up from the flu solves most of them.
The defense appears to be back though. Three of Oklahoma State's four scoring drives were of 32 yards or less, including a -5 yard "drive" that ended up a field goal. That goes back to the offense not turning it over and setting the defense up for failure, but there is definite hope on that side of the ball. Oklahoma State was way, way below its standard offensive output from a year ago.
LSU should be as well.
LSU really won this game 31-16, despite what a window dressing TD by Washington would have you believe. This sort of reminds me of when LSU's 2005 squad, which eventually went 11-2 by the way, went on the road and beat an eventual 7-5 Arizona State team by just four. Granted that was in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, but still, the gap between those teams was much wider than the score made it out to be.
I think this game is probably similar. The longest road trip in school history isn't the best way to break in a new quarterback and new coordinator, after all. Jake Locker is a great player, and UW would not have gone winless last season with him healthy. Steve Sarkisian for now appears to be a humungous upgrade from Ty Willingham too. Before we go making big assumptions over one game (remember, Washington only lost to 10-3 BYU by one point with Locker last year), let's give LSU some more time and let's see how good the Huskies end up being.
That said, the 478 yards, 25 first downs, and 36:52 time of possession for Washington is troubling, as is the 11-19 third down conversion rate.
Boise State needs to step up its non-conference scheduling.
Remember when the Broncos were first in line at the BCS busters' buffet? Yeah, that lasted all of about 48 hours. With BYU's win over Oklahoma, and schedule home game against Florida State in a couple weeks, the Cougars not only have a chance to break into the BCS but play for it all if fewer than two Big Six conference teams go undefeated. It's too bad for the Broncos that their games against Oregon State and Virginia Tech are next year and not this year too.
Florida's defense hasn't changed.
Maybe it was because Janoris Jenkins and Jermaine Cunningham didn't play. Maybe it's because they weren't taking things seriously. Either way, Florida's defense hasn't changed a bit from last year. In 2008, they got a lot of stops but relatively few three-and-outs. They focused this off season on getting more three-and-outs, but instead Charleston Southern was generally able to move the ball for a set of downs or two before punting. They also still did not get a shutout, despite playing Charleston Southern, because on that inability to get offenses off the field immediately.
The offense, by the way, will be just fine if Riley Cooper stays healthy. That's a big if, but he and Aaron Hernandez have Tim Tebow's full trust. Also, expect a more run-oriented attack because Jeffrey Demps and Chris Rainey are noticeably better than last year. Yeah it was just CSU, but you could tell if you watched the game. Tebow's new throwing motion was also evident, with him throwing some NFL-like deep balls instead of his rainbows of previous years.
Auburn is probably on the right track.
LA Tech was a trendy upset pick in this game, but Auburn didn't give them a shot. The offense had roughly a 2:1 ratio of runs to passes (much to the relief of Tiger fans, I'm sure), and freshman Onterio McCalebb was a revelation. This game has been overlooked by many for juicier storylines and bigger blowouts, but it was an important win to kick off Gene Chizik's tenure.
While it's never a good idea to get too worked up over beating a mid range WAC team, Auburn fans should be satisfied by this one. There was no placing the game on the arm of Chris Todd again, and 556 yards of offense is an impressive number.
Lane Kiffin made an immediate impact.
I watched most of the first half of Tennessee's game against Western Kentucky, and let me tell you, it was ugly. If it wasn't for WKU being completely inept offensively (how exactly does a quarterback miss a bubble screen target by 10 yards?), the Vols would have been in a big hole in a hurry. Instead of letting negativity set in like what might have happened a year ago, the snapped out of it and rolled up their first 60 point output since putting 70 on UL-M in 2000. In 2008, it took three games for Tennessee to get more than 63 total points.
I cannot emphasize just how bad Western Kentucky was, so let's not get too ahead of ourselves here. Ron Zook once beat San Jose State 65-3 while at Florida. However, Jonathan Crompton had a smile on his face for most of a game for once. It's early, but projections that have UT headed back to a bowl look secure for now.
So did Dan Mullen.
It also took Mississippi State three games last year to surpass the total of its first game in 2008. In fact, the Bulldogs didn't once hit 40 points against anyone (I-AA opponents included) during the Sly Croom era. No one is ready to rank MSU yet or anything, but this does immediately validate the idea that Dan Mullen will be different from the previous administration for reasons beyond personality.
Kentucky has some pop. Probably.
Kentucky made a statement by scoring 42 points in three quarters while pitching a shutout. They don't like being picked in the bottom two of the SEC East every year. Then again, the quarter they didn't scoring in was the first, showing that it took time to get going. Plus, Miami (OH) was a miserable 2-10 last year in the miserable MAC, and they allowed 40+ points to bad teams like Kent State and Toledo. We knew the defense was going to be good. Telling whether or not the offense will be enough to go bowling for a fourth straight year is going to require a few more weeks and some stiffer competition. They don't have the historical talent accumulating ability or recent high recruiting rankings like Tennessee does to say they're in for big things just yet.
I get to laugh at everyone who believed in Illinois again.
Trust me. The 2007 Rose Bowl trip was a fluke at the end of the flukiest season in memory.
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The sudden love for BYU at the expense of Boise St – a widely touted lock for the BCS a couple of days ago – reminds me of the end of last season; USC pounds Penn State, and suddenly everyone’s saying ‘hey, the Trojans only lost on the road, maybe they should have been going to Miami.’ Then Utah beats Bama and everyone forgets USC and the “Utah’s the real #1” bandwagon fills up in a hurry. And then Texas reminds everyone of their existence by beating OSU, and how they beat OU and got gypped etc, etc…
The same thing happened at the end of the ’07 regular season, as team after team stepped up to the plate with a chance to make their case for the title game, and team after team cocked it up, sometimes in comically improbable ways (hello, West Virginia!)
Just like everyone else, BYU has a long way to go…
Oh definitely. But if both BYU and Boise St. win out, BYU has a much, much better claim.
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I agree – if a MWC team finishes with the same record as Boise St, the WAC-sters are out of luck, which is why the Boise St love on Thursday seemed so excessive to me. I just wouldn’t consider an undefeated BYU as a legit darkhorse in the national picture until after the TCU game. (And even then, BYU faces Utah to close the season… season-ending rivalry games are always a great place for championship dreams to get knee-capped, as UF and FSU spent the ’90s proving.)
BYU - Utah Holy War
As long as we’re just speculating, no reason why they can’t both be undefeated for that Nov. 28 matchup, although the Yout’s also have road games at Oregon and TCU.
Agreed that this is all way premature. More than the end of last season, it reminds me of those Fresno State teams that would upset Wisconsin and Oregon State to get people talking about national championship runs — and then lay multiple eggs in the WAC schedule.
OU's problem
was Stoops’ (remember when he was a good coach) insistence on staying with the pass. You have Murray…run the damn ball. I don’t think the Utes and the Frogs will make the same mistake. Also, how impressive does that win look if/when the Sooners drop another 1-2 games (as I fully expect against Tex. and the Pokes)?
You always forget that Nebraska is a state until they pop up in the news about some guy who has 25 kids buried in his backyard
-Ripped off from Deadspin
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 7, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
OSU v. USC.
The Trojans are going to crush the Buckeyes yet again. I’d be surprised if they don’t win by 14+ points in a game that isn’t even really that close…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
ditto...
too physical, too fast for the Buckeyes. It won’t be with barkley’s arm though (if it is, it will be PA to the backs and waggles etc), it will be with a punishing ground game.
You always forget that Nebraska is a state until they pop up in the news about some guy who has 25 kids buried in his backyard
-Ripped off from Deadspin
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 7, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yoy guys here at TSK are a crack up
With a hard on of hatred for everything USC.
We’ll see who wins at the Horsheshoe? Any bets?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
It's "you"
And I actually have no problem with Southern Cal this year. They’ll have to go a few years without losing to an inferior Pac-10 team before I concern myself with hating them again.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
You bet it's "me"
How’s that hating cock?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Easy there
Don’t take anything personal. If you don’t like my assessment of the Ohio State and USC games, then please tell why. But don’t just come in and launch attacks. It doesn’t accomplish anything.
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Easy there yourself Year2
Wanna tell me how it’s possible NOT to take anything personal when your fellow manager already attests to the fact that there’s a degree of hatred going on. Do you wanna tell me you like the USC Trojans? Is this so-called personal attack in error?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Attacks?
What
are
you
talking
about?
Explain yourself and what your definition of “attacks” are?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
An accusatory tone, “a crack up,” and “a hard on of hatred” are all not conducive to a spirited but respectful debate. We both encourage anyone and everyone to disagree, but we want folks to do it in a manner that doesn’t resemble a shouting match.
As I said, if you’d like to disagree with my assessment of the Ohio State and USC games, I’d be all for it. Tell me why I’m wrong. But, you have to bring something more than calling us haters. I have no reason to hate USC anyway; my team is 1-0-1 against them all time.
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"A crack up" and "hard on for hatred"?
And you’re telling me “easy there”. Okay Year2.
You have a pretty thin skin to consider those two remarks to be “attacks”. One would consider those remarks to be quite tame, apparently for TSK’s- it’s an attack? Thank you very much for your definitions, I would say good luck with your blog, but I seriously would not be meaning it.
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Scratch all that Year2
To you Year2 and cocknfire: I humbly apologize! I really and truly do. I am sorry for being in any way, shape or form- untoward. That is not my intention nor my normal disposition. Sometimes my allegiances get in my way and I fly off the handle, thinking I’m not doing any “wrong” or not saying anything “disrespectful”.
Boy, now I see how wrong I am. A good friend and fellow blogger pointed that out to me, quite recently.
For all that I’ve done in the past (with you cocknfire after the bowl games) and towards you Year2 yesterday and today. Please accept my apologies, I’m very sorry for being such a punk and a prick.
I DO wish you both all the success in the world. I do. (please understand, I’m trying to be sincere here, and I fear these limited words are the best that I can do for the moment. I am sorry and I do apologize to you both)
Bix (Tristan)
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, it’s all right. Just be cool in the future and everything will be all right.
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Wow
That escalated quickly.
Bix didn’t exactly help his case by just coming on here and throwing barbs, but he kind of has a point. From this year’s Explaining the BlogPoll Ballot:
And there’s Southern Cal, down at No. 5. Take that, Musberger! But why, beyond my previously stated distaste for the Trojans? Here are the losses of the Top 5 teams: Mississippi, none, Texas Tech, Texas and Florida, Oregon State. Which of those things is not like the others?
Now, you’ll find exactly that same kind of “I just don’t care for them” perspective on USC/Pac-10, tOSU, and Texas boards with respect to ranking teams from other regions, but I can just about guarantee that’s what Bix was responding to, without having the courtesy to reference it despite your repeated entreaties.
If the topic of discussion is last year specifically, I don’t really see how you can distinguish between Florida, Texas, Utah, and yes, USC. Let’s not forget that Vegas called USC the favorite out of all those four teams. If the topic is simply year-over-year, I think the frustration/motivation lies in the fact that the SEC schedule is perceived as somehow light years more difficult than that of the Pac-10. Most reasonable Pac-10 fans will concede that the bowl records and MNC records of the SEC over the last 11 years show them to be the best conference. What they will also attempt to point out in response is that the Pac-10 isn’t far behind.
Thanks Nashville but
I got up in cocknfire’s grill over at Conquest Chronicles and over here too at TSK. Dude, cocknfire, I’ve been wanting to extend an olive branch since that time- truly- I was out of line and was just egging you on. (you’re pretty good at being dismissive and disparaging yourself though, eh?)
I’m not expecting anything from this other than you both accepting my apology. You can still not like USC, that’s your perogatives. But . . . .remember over at SMQ a few years back cocknfire? (I was tapout back then)- we had a good one going with Menalaus regarding Coach Dorrell’s firing from the Bruins. (ah, the good ol’ days)
I think you have excellent commentary cocknfire, and I promise to be a far better writer towards you and your blog(s) in the future. We got off pretty badly after the bowl games, we both have our allegiances and I’m apologizing for my behavior. You deserve better from me than that.
Take care buddy, I hope we have a better exchange of opinions with each other in the immediate future.
(trust me Nashville, I “owe” cocknfire THAT MUCH! I got pretty nasty with him last year, er. . . the earlier part of the year)
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem
I was more snarky in my reply than I should have been. Apologies on my part as well.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
Kinda like Florida
And Michigan and Mississippi? Kinda like that?
"As for being a Raiders fan, I wouldn't wish that fucking shit on anybody." [the venerable OTS at Roll Bama Roll}
by BixBeiderbecke on Sep 7, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Good observation on USC
I watched part of that as well, and no one seems to remember Leinart’s first start, but it was a lot like that: Damage was done on play actions, rolling the pocket, and (the USC’s favorite all-time protect-the-QB-play, the swing out to the fullback). I am very worried about OSU’s inability to stuff the inside run though. Navy was pretty physical upfront…and they shouldn’t have been.
You always forget that Nebraska is a state until they pop up in the news about some guy who has 25 kids buried in his backyard
-Ripped off from Deadspin
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 7, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions
Navy did nothing but cut blocking though, which is not what USC will do. It wasn’t so much Ohio State getting pushed around, because they weren’t, but rather them being slow to adjust to having their feet taken out on every play.
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Gators run oriented offense
I can’t imagine that the Gators will run the ball much more than 62% of the time, like they did last year. Demps and Rainey both rushed for 7.9+ ypa last year, so while I think they’ll be amazing, I’m having a hard time believing they will be noticeably better. Finally, the Florida sat in their base defense all night, but I don’t think they’ll do that against UT.
In SEC play, the run/pass ratio was about even, if I remember correctly. I would expect to see that change this season.
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63% in SEC play. Meyer has always shot for 60/40 run/pass. If you look at every season he’s coached back to Bowling Green, I think the lowest he ever averaged was 55% run back in 2006.
Weird. I must have got some bad info somewhere. Thanks for clearing it up.
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