Why Georgia-Arkansas is More Intriguing than Tennessee-Florida
Almost all the attention in the SEC this week has been fixated on Tennessee at Florida, for good reason. It's the most compelling game with the most interesting subplots, and there are more than a few fans of other teams who would normally love to see the Gators go down to defeat who are instead hoping Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow decide to go for triple digits against Boy Wonder.
But for my money, the most intriguing game of the weekend might be Georgia at Arkansas -- in part because it will be Arkansas' first real opponent and in part because it might help us untangle this.
| GEORGIA vs. OKLAHOMA STATE | HOUSTON vs. OKLAHOMA STATE | |||||||||
| OFFENSE | DEFENSE | OFFENSE | DEFENSE | |||||||
| First Downs | 16 | First Downs | 17 | First Downs | 32 | First Downs | 27 | |||
| Rushing | 95 | Rushing | 172 | Rushing | 146 | Rushing | 194 | |||
| Average | 3.2 | Average | 3.7 | Average | 4.1 | Average | 4.7 | |||
| Passing | 162 | Passing | 135 | Passing | 366 | Passing | 240 | |||
| Average | 5.4 | Average | 6.1 | Average | 8.0 | Average | 7.7 | |||
| TOTAL | 257 | TOTAL | 307 | TOTAL | 512 | TOTAL | 434 | |||
| GEORGIA vs. SOUTH CAROLINA | N.C. STATE vs. SOUTH CAROLINA | |||||||||
| OFFENSE | DEFENSE | OFFENSE | DEFENSE | |||||||
| First Downs | 16 | First Downs | 26 | First Downs | 11 | First Downs | 16 | |||
| Rushing | 107 | Rushing | 114 | Rushing | 59 | Rushing | 108 | |||
| Average | 3.7 | Average | 3.8 | Average | 1.9 | Average | 2.6 | |||
| Passing | 201 | Passing | 313 | Passing | 74 | Passing | 148 | |||
| Average | 8.4 | Average | 5.9 | Average | 3.0 | Average | 6.7 | |||
| TOTAL | 308 | TOTAL | 427 | TOTAL | 133 | TOTAL | 256 | |||
This is quite the bizarre group of numbers here. Georgia's defense fared roughly the same against both Oklahoma State and South Carolina on a per-play basis, but gave up 13 more points to the Gamecocks -- perceived to be a far lower-powered offense -- and allowed far more yards per rushing attempt and total yards to South Carolina than did N.C. State. And yet that same defense limited Oklahoma State to 127 fewer yards, and a yard fewer per rush and 1.6 yards fewer per pass than did Houston. (In fairness to Georgia, they also allowed 0.8 yards fewer per passing attempt to South Carolina than did N.C. State, but the Gamecock passed far more against the Dawgs than against the Wolfpack by design, so some of that is to be expected.)
Georgia struggled against a Big XII defense that couldn't keep Houston from ringing up 512 yards of offense, but ended up scoring 41 points against what is at least believed to be a solid SEC defense. The Dawgs rushed for an extra half-yard per carry and averaged a full three yards better per passing attempt against South Carolina than against the Cowboys.
That leaves us with a set of conclusions which have varying degrees of seeming to be right or wrong.
The Houston offense is better than Georgia's. This isn't that far-fetched; the Cougars have long been a high-octane team. In fact, their offense is one of the reasons that Houston was believed to be a darkhorse BCS buster before the season.
Georgia's defense, particularly against the run, is worse than N.C. State's and South Carolina's defense is worse than Oklahoma State's. This is unproven. But it's hard to believe that the Dawgs are that much worse than the Wolfpack. Whatever his yardage average might be, Stephen Garcia looked better playing Georgia than he did against N.C. State. This might be a matter of gaining game experience and confidence, in which case Georgia is fine. If not, we're still left with a massive question about the Bulldogs. The only way this conclusion works for South Carolina is if N.C. State is one of the worst offensive teams of the 21st Century, which I suppose is possible. Otherwise, something else is going on here.
South Carolina's offense is at least as good as Oklahoma State's. This just seems patently absurd. It's hard to take seriously the idea that the Cowboys could have scored just seven points -- off a turnover, no less -- against N.C. State. But the numbers are eerily similar between the Gamecocks and the Cowboys against Georgia. This could have been first-game jitters for Oklahoma State against the Dawgs -- but if you're first-game jitters come in a win against Georgia followed by a loss to Houston, that's one heck of a letdown game. This raises the troubling idea that Georgia might play to the level of its competition.
Saturday's game between the Dawgs and the Razorbacks could go a long way to telling us how good Georgia is and, by extension, how good South Carolina is. It could also give us a hint as to whether Oklahoma State is overrated and, getting even further away from the immediate results, whether Houston's new hype is justified.
I find that a little bit more interesting than just finding out how many touchdowns the Gators can score when they're pissed.
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Amen Brother
My money is for watching this game and not the blowout contest between Florida and Kiffin’s Knuts.
Agreed
Good thing they are not on at the same time, looking forward to them both but for different reasons.
As a Gamecock,
this game is difficult.
I want to believe we’re still capable of 2nd in the East, which means I should want Arkansas to win.
However, if Arkansas wins, it potentially means we are not as good as I hoped, which is troubling to say the least with Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Bama on the schedule. If Georgia is the Georgia of week one, we likely aren’t good enough to finish 2nd in the East, other than as a 4-4 outfit in a scenario in which everyone other than Florida is pushed around by the West.
If Georgia wins, it potentially means we are good, but it comes at the expense of Georgia getting a win in one of their most challenging road venues, which hurts our chances to finish 2nd in the East.
I think I will hope for an entertaining game, and seek validation from an 8-0 ACC campaign in which NC State unleashes death on all comers and razes opposing stadiums for good measure.
by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 17, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions
There’s always the possibility of South Carolina getting better as the season progresses and growing into the second best team in the East. No shame in that, should it become the case.
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Eh, I wouldn't worry about the Georgia loss
This UGA team is going to be all over the place this year.
by D.N. Nation on Sep 17, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Both the post and your reply
signify the importance of this game in sorting out quality in BOTH the east and west and it seems quite a few people are looking to the match-up as a barometer of their team’s quality. If you believe the odds makers, who yesterday were spotting Georgia a single point, and this game ends up being decided by less than a field goal, then we may be provided with no answers whatsoever. Though I might find this frustrating as a fan, it does make the conversation about the overall strength and parity of SEC teams all that much more interesting.
I was telling a friend a few weeks ago that my gut was telling me that this year would find Florida undefeated, Mississippi State winless, and every other team in the SEC at 4-4 in conference. I later added the caveat that all of the teams needed to undefeated in their non-con schedules to maintain the argument of SEC dominance – but imagine the fun of that scenario! It would take some inspired play on Vandy’s part and some real missteps from the likes of Bama and LSU, but it seems more likely this year than at any time since the expansion.
Up with headcold,
and decided to treat it by looking at depth charts.
Anyone know the most senior laden unit in the SEC East? Believe it or not, it’s the Tennessee offense. They have eight SR’s starting on that side of the ball, more than Florida, Georgia, and Carolina combined (three, two, and two respectively).
Given how bad the offense looked last year and against UCLA, that is just stunning. Whoever they hand the keys to next year will have to learn behind a completely rebuilt line. The Vols only returner along the line is a 260 lb former walk-on center, starting only because of a career ending injury to their penciled-in SR center.
On defense, they lose both DT’s, all their LB’s, and I’ll guess Eric Berry will leave early. If Florida avoids mass NFL defections, the Vols will lose significantly more players from that side of the ball than their East compatriots.
I guess what I’m saying, is it’s a good thing Lane Kiffin has built up such goodwill from a fanbase noted for their patience and cool rationalism, because next year could be even worse than this one.
by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 18, 2009 2:35 AM EDT reply actions
There's virtually nothing intriguing...
…about the Florida vs. Tennessee matchup. It’s going to be a bloodbath. I didn’t even mention it in my Five College Football Games to Watch: Week 3 column on Wednesday.
Furthermore, I was watching ESPN this morning and they’re trying to pimp this game as one of the big games of the weekend (which is super odd considering it’s on CBS.) Seriously, when has a game with a 28 point spread ever received this much attention? Lane Kiffin must be some kind of savant for being able to draw attention to this.
Not a surprising comment
from someone linked with RollBamaRoll.com.
I don’t understand all the attention, either. I do, however, enjoy all the free advertising for the Vols.
After the Vols out-recruit the Tide for the next two years perhaps you might find a few more intriguing aspects of the Vols’ games.
Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.
by pound the rock on Sep 18, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Objectivity
I have enough objectivity about things despite our programs’ loathing of one another to be able to call into question why this game is getting so much attention (besides the obvious answer of Lane Kiffin’s mouth.) I would be calling it into question in the same was if it was Florida vs. Vanderbilt. I’m not trying to turn this into an Alabama vs. Tennessee thing. I’m trying to have a discussion about this game.
Seriously, as of right now here are some other games this weekend with similar spreads (typically around +/-4 of 28.) I’ve included the TV network they’re going to appear on as well:
Penn State vs. Temple (BTN)
Oklahoma State vs. Rice (not televised)
Michigan vs. Eastern Michigan (BTN)
LSU vs. LA-Lafayette (ESPNU)
Missouri vs. Furman (FSN PPV)
South Carolina vs. Charleston Southern (PPV)
etc.
Sure, Florida vs. Tennessee is the only game of the bunch to feature two “name” teams, but none of those others are at being hyped at all and the LSU game on ESPNU is the only one that can even remotely be described as being nationally televised.
I think that Tennessee being an underdog to the same level as Temple, Rice, &c is in fact part of the reason for the hype. I base this, however, solely upon my roommate who yesterday was fairly amazed at just how much of an underdog the Vols are. (For reference, he’s solidly Pac-10)
Defending the SEC in Addicted to Quack and the Pac-10 in Team Speed Kills and And the Valley Shook.
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 18, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Florida Atlantic
It’s South Carolina vs. Florida Atlantic. We haven’t sunk to the level of putting Charleston Southern on our schedule yet.
Why, no, that’s not a game against S.C. State later in the year. Competely ignore that. Must be a horrible misprint.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
How good is Georgia?
They lost to an overrated Oklahoma State and beat the overrated Gamecocks. Slamming Lane Kiffin while your team continues to be a sub-par nightmare puts you on the same level as Al Davis. That should upset you. Not nearly as badly as the thought of all the money SC paid to get Steve Spurrier only to not get any closer to the SEC Championship that you have. Call him the Boy Wonder all you want, but I wonder who will see Atlanta first? Probably Kiffin.
That's the best you've got?
I always love the response from fans who come with, "Well, at least we’re better than your team." First of all, this is not a South Carolina blog, though I am certainly a Gamecocks fan. Second of all, I would think that Tennessee being 2-2 against South Carolina over the last four years, with one of the wins resulting in part from your FG kicker getting a second chance because your own lineman got flagged for a penalty would speak volumes even to the most diehard Tennessee fan. Apparently not. Okay, then. Which team last had a .500 record in the SEC or went to a bowl? Which team last defeated Florida? Finally, the statements about whether Kiffin is objectively good or objectively bad has nothing to do with how good or bad South Carolina is. That’s not a defense, it’s a distraction.
Oh, and Georgia and South Carolina both have one more BCS win this year than does Lane Kiffin. But I’m sure you’re thrilled about that marquee victory over WKU.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.

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