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A Championship List

This is meant to be more of a conversation starter than a normal post. It goes like this: if you had to pick a list of ten schools that at least half of the next ten national champions will come from, who would you put on it? Here's my list in no particular order:

SEC

Florida - because of a high probability of a 2009 national title and because Meyer ain't leaving.

Georgia - because Mark Richt always has his team up there, all it'll take is the right special player or two to put him over the top.

Alabama - because Nick Saban recruits like a madman and is an exceptional coach.

LSU - because the reawakening of the program this decade looks like it's taken root.

Pac-10

USC - because I'd be a fool not to include the flagship program of one of the three best recruiting states, to say nothing of the job Pete Carroll has done.

Oregon - because I love Chip Kelly's offense and Oregon was a healthy Dennis Dixon knee away from winning it all in 2007, showing the program is capable of being up there.

Big Ten

Ohio State - because Jim Tressel will have his team near or at the top of his automatic qualifying conference every year, and that's all you need.

Michigan - because Rich Rodriguez nearly won one at West Virginia, and he'll get better players at Michigan.

Big 12

Oklahoma - because this program is rich in resources and right next to Texas, and because the program will eventually win one as long as it keeps getting to the big game.

Texas - because I'd be a fool not to include the flagship program of one of the three best recruiting states, and because Will Muschamp won't let things fall off if/when Mack Brown steps down before the next ten years finish.

Honorable Mentions

Star-divide

Arkansas - because I believe in Bobby Petrino the coach, but it's going to be tougher to get to a BCS game in the SEC West than it was at Louisville.

Miami - because Butch Davis showed that putting a great coach in this program will make it really good really quickly, and Randy Shannon is stocking the cupboards quite nicely for whoever will replace him.

Virginia Tech - because Frank Beamer has built a consistent winner, and perhaps Bud Foster will put it over the top whenever he retires.

Your Turn

What's your list of ten teams? And here's a couple more questions for you:

-If I gave you the entire Big East together as one team, would you take it?

-If I gave you the entire ACC together as one team, would you take it?

-If I gave you all of the current non-Big Six schools (as of today) together as one team, would you take it?

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What’s your list of ten teams? And here’s a couple more questions for you:

-If I gave you the entire Big East together as one team, would you take it?

-If I gave you the entire ACC together as one team, would you take it?

-If I gave you all of the current non-Big Six schools (as of today) together as one team, would you take it?

I would take Florida State over Oregon. With that change, I suspect that you have at least 16 of the 20 participants in the next 10 BCS title games.

To answer your questions,
I would take the Big East over Georgia but I don’t know that it will matter anymore than it would have over the past 10 years.
I would the ACC over Oregon and Georgia. Don’t sleep on FSU in a post-Bowden world.
I would not take the non-BCS conferences.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 5, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

You must have a lot more faith in Jimbo Fisher than I do.

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by Year2 on Aug 5, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a dog

in UF/FSU.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 5, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just meant that Jimbo is next in line, and to put FSU up that highly, you’d need faith in his ability to be a top flight head coach. I wasn’t overly impressed by his tenure as offensive coordinator at LSU, as it was good but not great (maybe an LSU fan can correct me on this if I’m grossly wrong on that). Nothing about it immediately screams “going to be a championship winning coach” to me.

FSU is certainly in position to recruit some good ones, but getting good players is only part of the equation. Bobby will be around another two seasons and Jimbo at least three after that (but probably more). If I’m right about Fisher not being a championship caliber head coach, that leaves an awfully small window in the next decade to bring home a title.

That contrasts with Miami, which had to pick up a coach on the cheap last time around thanks to Larry Coker’s big buyout. With Coker no longer getting money and what I am sure is a small buyout for Shannon, Miami can probably afford to pay a good coach if Shannon can’t get things turned around here soon. That gives Miami a much bigger window for a title than FSU would have, which is why I put Miami up there but not FSU.

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by Year2 on Aug 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimbo

I can’t claim to speak for the entire LSU fanbase, but I wasn’t sorry to see Jimbo Fisher go. I thought his offenses were pretty darn uncreative, and he specialized in the run right, run left, throw on third down offense. I want to blame the refs for the 2006 Auburn game, but the way Fisher handcuffed that offense gives me a much easier target.

I don’t think Jimbo lives up to his reputation. He’s not the guy I’d hand the keys to the program to.

by Poseur on Aug 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This may be very controversial

but losing Bowden will be addition by subtraction. I’m not sure that FSU still belongs in the top ten though, or even in the honorable mention.

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by Gregatron on Aug 6, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my shot

USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State

I put Penn State in due to the media. As long as voting is a part of it they have a chance.

Notre Dame gets in for same reason as Penn State, plus if Urban Meyer is as great as y’all say, I see no reason he won’t have them on top in the next 4 years.

Tough to take VaTech out, not too tough to take Oregon out.

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by MikeInValdosta on Aug 5, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I probably should have mentioned Penn State, but I chose not to since Paterno will not be coaching all of the next decade and I have no earthly idea what is coming next. Presumably it’d be continuity with Tom Bradley or someone similar, but there’s no guarantee. Being in the state of Pennsylvania and with Ohio nearby puts PSU in prime norther recruiting territory, but there’s too much uncertainty for me.

I also would answer no on all the questions too, though the last one gives me the most pause. I really do think that the big stink over Utah this off season (and especially with the way the final AP poll went) that if the right team from outside a Big 6 conference with the right schedule goes undefeated, one could end up playing for a title (or getting support from a sympathetic AP if it misses out on the BCSCG). Utah, for instance, has the right kind of non-conference slates coming up in 2010 and 2011 to do it should the Utes go unbeaten.

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by Year2 on Aug 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paterno

You don’t include them because you don’t see him coaching all of the next decade? Did you notice the past decade when he hasn’t been coaching and Penn State seems to be just fine?

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by AuditDawg on Aug 7, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn’t do much with his injury last year, but also remember that he got injured while trying to demonstrate an onside kick. Paterno is still very much involved at Penn State.

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by Year2 on Aug 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how Notre Dame

can be taken seriously as a top tier football program. It seem like they are destined to go 8-5/7-6 and go to the Buffalo Wild Wings Cubic Zirconia Bowl, and lose 34-10 pretty much every year.

Obviously this changes if Meyer goes there.

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by Gregatron on Aug 6, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the future of Paul Johnson and Georgia Tech. The offense will improve as Johnson starts recuiting more and more athletes to run it.

He won at Navy, he can win at Georgia Tech.

by 49er16 on Aug 5, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that it’s fun to watch, but I just don’t see a national title for him. Not at the moment anyway, but he’s had just one season at a Big Six school.

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by Year2 on Aug 5, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A team under that radar that I think might deserve an honorable mention

is North Carolina. I like their coach a lot, and think they are in a position to snag some good recruits, including some diamonds in the rough (underrated 3 star kids and the like).

I would not be shocked to see UNC take a national title in the next ten years.

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by Gregatron on Aug 6, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love stuff like this

I’d take VaTech, GaTech, Miami, and FSU over Oregon, so gimme the ACC.

Otherwise, hard to argue with your list.

by Hobnail_Boot on Aug 7, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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