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Sprints Wonders If No One Else Trusts Steve Spurrier // 08.28.09

'Can you believe what these blogger Interwebs Twitterers are sayin' 'bout me?'

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'Can you believe what these blogger Interwebs Twitterers are sayin' 'bout me?'

We're all homers. One of the most difficult things about writing any conference-wide blog, as your humble correspondent has noted before, is screening out your own biases. Sure, it would be fine for a South Carolina blogger to predict an 8- or 9-win season on a South Carolina blog, but the objective here is to be realistic.

How did I do with a 7-5 pick? According to some of the better bloggers out there, not very well. Dr. Saturday:

But given Spurrier’s history of instability at quarterback -- whether by injury and impatience, he's had two different regular starters each of the last three years at Carolina -- and the perpetual struggles of the offensive line, Garcia's sophomore campaign might qualify as a success if he’s still upright and atop the depth chart at the end of it. If he actually manages to the 'Cocks above .500 against a schedule with at least seven games they'll enter as likely underdogs, that's just gravy.

That wasn't the worst part of the post.

Star-divide

No, the honor of "hardest line for a South Carolina fan to read" came earlier in the post, when the Doc was ruminating on Spurrier's reign so far and where the program stands now.

The window has slammed shut so emphatically that it almost seems hard to believe it ever existed in the first place. And whether it did or not, it's hard to find any reason it might open again soon -- beginning with talent relative to the rest of the SEC.

As fan, you have to eventually get to a point where what "the experts" say doesn't bother you as much, even when it's someone as universally respected as Hinton. Sometimes, they turn out to be wrong. But it's still troubling that a more objective look at the Gamecocks finds a .500 record "gravy" when I almost consider that level of achievement a given.

And the Doc is not alone. In their fine preview of the SEC, The Rivalry, Esq. includes South Carolina as one of the teams that will not make it to a bowl.

The Music City Bowl is ecstatic to finally get the Vols in Nashville. Auburn heads to the Liberty Bowl. Kentucky goes to Shreveport. South Carolina, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State spend a long, mild winter thinking about next year.

South Carolina less likely to go to a bowl than Tennessee? Auburn? Kentucky?!? Not that it's impossible to picture all three going to the postseason -- I already have the Vols and the Wildcats playing in late December or early January. But I also have both of them behind the Gamecocks in the SEC East.

I am not alone among South Carolina fans and observers, at least. The Head Ball Coach himself sees opportunities for improvement this year after last year's Outback Bowl debacle almost did him in.

Spurrier, entering his fifth season at South Carolina, said he quickly got over that funk, thanks in large part to the way the Gamecocks recruited, and remains committed to bringing an SEC championship to a program that has wallowed in mediocrity throughout its history.

"We've got a lot of good, young talent on our team.

"That and the new (assistant) coaches we got in here sort of re-energized me. I look at it like we're starting our second run here." ...

"We certainly have hopes that these guys we have now and the guys on the way will help. Like I said, we're starting on our second leg, and we'll see where it takes us."

Chris Brown argues at the Doc's place that part of the problem, though, is Spurrier and his seeming inability to adapt. So if Spurrier adds some elements of the spread, is that enough to turn this thing around?

We're running some of the spread stuff and our quarterbacks are able to run a little bit. So we're a little bit different than we have been in the past and running the ball some out of the shotgun. ... Yeah, we've never really had great running quarterbacks. We've had decent guys who could run a little bit. But if you're going to run that spread offense, your quarterback's got to carry it six to eight times a game.

Again, I don't let this get to me too much as a fan. There are examples almost annually of teams that are written off for dead every year and emerge to have great seasons. Sure, the numbers are pretty small -- but part of a fan's job is to enjoy the ride, even if you have to grasp at some fairly thin straws to keep your hopes up.

If nothing else, South Carolina can always be Defensive Back U. As long as the Gamecocks get "Youth, depth and who will play where" figured out.

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"Watching him handle himself, the way he threw the ball, listening to the other quarterbacks talk about him, I think he’s going to be a very, very good quarterback," he said.

Coming from one of the game's foremost experts on quarterback play. (HT: Roll Bama Roll)

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… in rushing for the Dawgs will probably be Richard Samuel and Carlton Thomas, in that order.

by BenG on Aug 28, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do people say Spurrier can't adapt?

Hello?!? Syvelle Newton, anyone? Is this thing on? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. A year after Syvelle graduated he recruited Steven Garcia to come play at Carolina with the explicit intention that he’d be a 3 year Syvelle-type starter. He’s also accepted the commitment of Connor Shaw, brother to Georgia Tech’s Jaybo, for the 2010 class. Connor was recruited to play QB at Georgia Tech as well, so you know he’s got some legs as well as an arm. Plus, nobody ever seems to notice how Spurrier’s offense at USC has been effective in its play calling and getting wide recievers open. Even last year we had plenty of receivers open on plays, but our QBs either didn’t see them or couldn’t hit them. The real problem has been on the offensive line, which could be described as pourous at best.

Even as recently as last fall, Spurrier expressed his intention to change the way we talks to the media about his player, as well as offer up some more encouragement. The “Surrier can’t adapt” dog just won’t hunt. He has shown that he is a constant innovator. That’s what he do.

by The Feathered Warrior on Aug 28, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's a matter of Spurrier not being able to adapt

You seem reasonable and I’ve had many spirited debates with cocknfire, but in all honesty, South Carolina is just an average program and always has been. Don’t take that as me saying Georgia is an elite program and has always been there. Trust me, I lived through the 1990s and Georgia was about as far from an elite program as Vanderbilt is.

I have immense respect for Carolina fans because they enter each year with eternal hope and support their team to the end of the world. Last season summed up Carolina’s program to a “T” for me. To reach .500 overall as a program they only needed to defeat Vanderbilt in the second week of the season and failed to do that.

Coming from Augusta I have many friends from home that are Carolina fans, but even the most diehard fans have to acknowledge that Carolina is the one-legged man in the ass-kicking contest most of the time.

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by AuditDawg on Aug 28, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Structural considerations

Doesn’t the state of SC produce a good amount of football talent per capita? Certainly the fan support for USC football is pretty legendary. OTOH SC isn’t that high population state to start with, although I did just learn that it’s about the same population as Alabama.

And of course that whole “winning tradition” thing is missing, although I tend to think that’s sort of overrated in recruiting. How many 18-year-olds realize that Florida wasn’t really a top program until the 1980s? Heck, for that matter do you really think Alabama’s recruiting benefits more from decades-old championships or from an obsessive fan base filling the stadium and a coach with a strong track record? I’d argue pretty strongly that the last two factors eclipse the first one for everyone not growing up in the state of Alabama.

Anyway, what I’m getting at is this: What level of success should we expect from USC? Would a reasonable benchmark be Ole Miss/Miss State? Auburn? Somewhere between the two?

by PhilipVU94 on Aug 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure that the program has established a ceiling or even a baseline yet

A lot of people tend to forget that South Carolina only entered the SEC in 1992. That’s a very short time frame for something that is an enormous boost in recruiting over playing as an ACC, Metro or independent team.

I think the direction of the program is the right one. From the low of Brad Scott, we went to Lou Holtz, who had a few good seasons and several mediocre ones. Interesting fact: Lou Holtz never ended any season with an overall winning record at South Carolina. (The closest he got was 17-18 after the 2002 Outback Bowl.) Steve Spurrier has never ended any season with an overall losing record at South Carolina. That’s progress. It’s incremental and small progress, to be sure, but progress nonetheless.

The issue South Carolina faces over the next five years is whether Spurrier is the guy to take the next step — consistent 8 and 9-win seasons, occassional contention for the SEC East — or whether that’s the job for somebody else. And if Spurrier’s time to reach the next level runs out, how do you make sure you don’t muck up that hire? (Mark Dantonio Mark Dantonio Mark Dantonio)

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by cocknfire on Aug 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'll get no arguments from me...

about South Carolina being an average program. In fact, when it comes down to it, we’re probably even slightly below average. This is a fact. But what bothers me is when people say things like “South Carolina will never win an SEC championship” or “Steve Spurrier ruined his career by coaching at South Carolina.” These statements are asinine. The logical conclusion to these statements would be for USC to close the doors to its football program, pack it up, and salt the Earth between Columbia and Birmingham. In fact, why not take it a step further? Let’s all just go ahead and anoint Tim Tebow and the 2009 Gators the greatest football player/ team to ever toss the pigskin. Then we don’t have to bother with playing any games. The assertion that Steve Spurrier should have stayed retired or gone to a better program after his stint in the NFL is equally as irksome. What type of person can’t appreciate the intrinsic value of challenging oneself or setting the highest standards for success? Do people who make this criticism think that Spurrier, after achieving his success at Florida should have had the foresight (read: pessimism) to conclude that his best years were behind him? Certainly not. I pity anyone who, after accomplishing so much, wishes for nothing more than to preserve some ill-conceived notion of legacy.

In the above post I just wanted point out that the criticism of Spurrier for being either irrelevant or unwilling to adapt (as Dr. Saturday says) is unsubstantiated. Spurrier has been constantly adapting in all facets since his arrival in Columbia. What did people say when Spurrier first arrived in Columbia? He doesn’t like to recruit and wouldn’t do so. Well, with top 25 classes for the last 3 years I’d say that one is out the window. Now people are saying that Spurrier is unsuccessful in Columbia because he’s unwilling to change. It’s not true. We haven’t seen the kind of success out of Spurrier that we’re all used to because it’s hard to win in Columbia. The SEC East is the toughest division in college football and is only getting tougher. What’s more, South Carolina has no competitive advantage to speak of over other schools in the region. We’re not the most respected school in our state. We have no tradition of success. We can’t offer kids a free ride to private school that costs $40,000 a semester. We’re fighting an uphill battle. If the stars aligned then maybe it would be fair to say that Spurrier has failed/ is failing at USC, but that hasn’t happened. We’ve had key players leave early, we’ve had an inordinate amount of random happening to our detriment, and Spurrier has had the misfortune of beginning his tenure at the same time as Tim Tebow. This is Carolina football in it’s current edition.

I’ll also agree that a .500 record or (God willing) a 7-5 season this year might be a success given the circumstances. I fully acknowledge South Carolina’s place on the national sports stage. We haven’t done anything to deserve the kind of respect that some Carolina fans think we should get. I can also appreciate your critique for what it is – honest. Hailing from Gwinnett county, I’m quite familiar with UGA football. I know that all programs have ups and downs, although I’m too young to remember UGA having too many downs (except in Carolina’s red zone). Anyways, I’ve rambled enough. Please don’t mistake my post for anything else other than passion in the belief that the Gamecocks may one day lay claim to an SEC (East) Title.

by The Feathered Warrior on Aug 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great follow-up

I posted my initial comment a little hastily without much proofreading so it probably comes across as more harsh than I intended (damned interwebs and no sense of context). You pretty much summed up my point with this comment:

We’re fighting an uphill battle.

An old joke among some of my friends is that “Columbia is a coach’s graveyard”. I don’t necessarily agree with that, but Carolina is a tough place to win. I agree with you that the comments about Spurrier not adapting or being over the hill are misplaced and silly. I don’t know if it’s so much Spurrier as much as frankly, he’s just had some mediocre to average ballclubs during his tenure in Columbia.

I do truly believe that a coach like Rich Rodriguez or Paul Johnson would have a better chance at success than Spurrier in Columbia though. Those guys know how to shape a system to meet their talent and be successful with it. Spurrier always had guys like Ike Hilliard and Fred Taylor that made him look so great when he was at Florida.

I think Spurrier epitomizes the “It’s not about X’s and O’s, but Jimmy’s and Joe’s” theory when it comes to football. Certainly, he’s as sharp as an offensive mind as there’s been, but he also benefitted from some ridiculously stacked teams during his time in Gainesville. On the other hand, this comment from Chris Brown at Smart Football may give you a little insight into why Spurrier has struggled since he left Florida.

Famously, Spurrier was nearly blitzed right out of the NFL. This did not come as a shock to many in the coaching cognoscenti. I had a friend sit in on a clinic Spurrier gave while at Florida. He diagrammed a play, showed a route, and showed what the QB’s read was. Another coach in the room, while pointing to one of the symbols on the whiteboard, meekly asked, “Coach, what if they blitz that guy?” The second-hand report was that the OBC kind of scowled and said, “They’ll never do that.” And that was that. Except it wasn’t: In the NFL, that guy blitzed, and defenses since have never forgotten. Spurrier’s protection schemes are not known for their sturdiness, which is a problem when you not only want to throw it, but you want to throw it deep.

I think it’s silly to insinuate that Spurrier is unable to adapt, but I do think to call him arrogant or stubborn may be a fair characterization of his struggles. I think his comments recently around the whole who didn’t vote for Tebow thing illustrates that his pride, which is one of his greatest assets, may also be his greatest downfall.

“We made a mistake. I made a mistake,” Spurrier said. “Tim Tebow is not only the best quarterback in this league, but the best football player in the country. I believe he and Danny Wuerffel will go down maybe as the two best players to ever play college football.”

I don’t know if that’s more of a slight to Tim Tebow or guys like Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker. Spurrier genuinely believes that Danny Wuerffel is one of the greatest players of all time because he coached him which is just ridiculous. I think that most objective observers wouldn’t place Danny Wuerffel in their top 10 lists of greatest college players ever.

Sorry about all the rambling, but I genuinely don’t believe adaptation or lack-thereof is preventing Spurrier from challenging with Carolina for the East division. I think it’s due to the uphill battle at South Carolina combined with Spurrier’s inability to get over himself at times that is keeping him bogged at the 6-8 win total in Columbia.

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by AuditDawg on Aug 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny

I deal with the issue of how much/how slanted I write about Iowa over at TR,E. In that way, we’re fighting the same battles.

As for my pick of no bowl for South Carolina, I look at their season as having three scary aspects:

1) An opening four game stretch that could legitimately see them go 1-3.
2) An ending four game stretch that could legitimately see them go 0-4
3) An Alabama game that falls in the middle four games.

Now I don’t know that SC will finish 4-8, but with that gauntlet, not to mention the Vandy and Kentucky games that are no longer gimmies, I have a hard time finding 6 wins.

All of that said, while your view may be clouded by garnet glasses, mine is definitely colored by watching the Outback Bowl again last week.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Aug 28, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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