Ill-Considered BlogPoll Ballot Draft
Exactly one week from today, we at Team Speed Kills will be required to turn in our first BlogPoll ballot of the season. Year2 and I will be splitting the voting duties this year, as we will be with the SEC Power Poll, so I thought I'd throw out a very ill-considered rough draft of my ballot and let you all tear it to shreds so I can have it in much better condition for when we have to vote and it counts.
A very, very rough cut.
1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Southern Cal
4. Oklahoma
5. Virginia Tech
Your requisite top-line national championship contenders, with Florida and Texas going 1-2 and Southern Cal coming in at No. 3 (as usual). Oklahoma just barely falls short against Texas and ends up here. Virginia Tech is the dark horse that isn't really a dark horse, since everyone's talking about tem.
6. Alabama
7. Penn State
8. Ole Miss
9. Oklahoma State
10. BYU
Alabama should be just a touch off last year's pace, Penn State will likely win the Big Ten (I guess), I still believe in Ole Miss, Oklahoma State gets another Big XII-related nod and BYU is the BCS buster of the year.
11. Pittsburgh
12. North Carolina
13. Ohio State
14. Georgia Tech
15. Georgia
Georgia fans, the comments section is open and waiting for your righteous indignation. Aside from putting Atlanta before Athens, Pittsburgh seems like about as good a bet as any to win the Big Least. I was high on UNC last year, and they almost proved me right, while Ohio State will have another year good enough to get them in a bowl where they will serve as dinner.
16. Notre Dame
17. LSU
18. Illinois
19. Iowa
20. Nebraska
Notre Dame, Illinois and Iowa have all started to get a bit of buzz, and I don't think it's all undeserved. I'm wary of putting either the Offensive Genius or the Zooker in the Top 20, but it's a rough draft. LSU should be good, and someone has to win the Big XII North, so it might as well be Nebraska.
21. Nevada
22. Oregon State
23. Florida State
24. Rutgers
25. Arkansas
I'm going to keep picking Nevada to win the WAC until they prove me right, so they get into the poll this year. Oregon State is one of those teams that always wins nine or 10 games, no matter what you think they're going to do based on "evidence." Florida State, Rutgers and Arkansas are all wild cards; I'm not sure about the Hogs, but who else am I going to put there? (Really, if you have a good idea, I'd love to hear it.)
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Even if you like Nevada better, you have to have Boise State.
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by Year2 on Aug 17, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's homerism,
but I wasn’t too sure about VTech beating Bama before Darren Evans got hurt. Now it’d be more of a surprise for me if Bama lost the game.
by jsholt969 on Aug 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it were anybody other than Virginia Tech, I'd join you
But I trust their running game implicitly. I’ll sound like a broken record, but people tend to forget that Brandon Ore was supposed to be their big back last year and losing him was supposed to kill the Hokies. That worked out fine in the end.
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by cocknfire on Aug 17, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True,
but how many times are they going to be OK when their starting RB goes down? I mean, with Bama, we’ll be using multiple running backs anyway, so an injury wouldn’t be as big of a blow for them in my opinion, but unless I’m mistaken, VTech doesn’t use the multiple running back method like Bama does.
by jsholt969 on Aug 17, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more thing I thought about...
you also don’t really want to be trying out your new running back on Bama’s front seven. It’d probably be good for him to get some game experience before having him go up against Mt. Cody and co.
by jsholt969 on Aug 17, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ten Teams
Penn State and Illinois are too high and Ohio State is too low. PSU simply lost too many lineman this year to be a top 10 team. Illinois shouldn’t be ranked at all until Juice can string together 3 good games.
by JRose on Aug 17, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do wonder, what about Oregon, Oregon State, and Oklahoma State changed so much since UO went running over both OSUs, that the Ducks aren’t ranked, the Beavers are, and the Pokes are top 10?
3 Sep Ducks at Boise State
5 Sep Tigers at Washington
I smell road trip!
by AllSaintsDay on Aug 17, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, the 13 lost starters for Oregon is a start
Those are distributed on both offense and defense, giving them little to fall back on.
But something valid to consider.
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by cocknfire on Aug 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
My top five title contenders this year are Florida, USC, Texas, Oklahoma and… LSU! If you want a sleeper, I can’t shake Cal this year for some reason…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Aug 17, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Need to swap LSU and Bama
I think LSU found a QB at the end of last season, and Bama’s QB situation is yet to be proven. The tigers will likely win the West. Also, FSU is probably too low, now that Coach Fisher has all but taken complete control they should be much more improved and will be in contention for the ACC title.
I’m hoping that USC can avoid the crazy upset this year and we can have a UF/USC championship game in the Rose Bowl. Tired of the SEC vs Big-12/10 matchups.
by DonnerPartyof1 on Aug 17, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Bama's QB situation is your only reason,
then it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. As long as McElroy doesn’t get hurt, he should be fine. He can at least do what JPW was required to do last year, but I think he’ll might be a bit better. Given the nice touch he seems to have throwing the deep ball (pass to Maze in the Auburn game, throw to Julio in the spring game), I think he can do a pretty decent job this year.
I do think LSU should be ranked higher than 17 (and I think they’re probably better than Ole Miss), but not sure I’d put them higher than Bama.
by jsholt969 on Aug 17, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was calling for Jefferson to start last year
But I’m still not sure he’s proven enough to put LSU a lot higher. I’m also wary of falling into the talent + coaching = success trap that FSU sets every year. But worth consideration.
When it comes to Southern Cal, they’re 1c. I think any of the top four can legitimately expect to get in.
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by cocknfire on Aug 17, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FSU
Talent, no doubt.
Coaching?
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talent? Yes.
Player development? Not for the better part of a decade, no.
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by Year2 on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSU/Bama QB's
I didn’t mean to imply that Bama doesn’t have a QB, just that he hasn’t had any playing time in significant games. LSU used Jefferson alot at the end of the year and he was a huge improvement over Hatch and Lee. I think those games gave him a good start on being successful this year.
The only sure bet is that the west will be wild again and probably won’t be determined until the last week of the season.
by DonnerPartyof1 on Aug 17, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try not to get worked up about preseason polls.
College football is, after all, extremely unpredictable, even after you have seen a few games and have some idea how good everyone is. That said (and since you are looking for feedback)…
El oh el @ Notre Dame being ranked that high. I don’t see any indication they are that good of a good team. With their soft schedule they might get 9 wins, but is this ranked on expected performance or how good the team is? I feel pretty strongly the latter should be the criteria.
^^This is the only glaring thing that jumped out at me. I don’t see why ND should even be in the top 25.
Also, I like UNC a lot, but not #12.
I think LSU belongs more in the 10-15 range, but I’m biased.
I think you have Ohio State underrated. I would flip them and PSU.
Overall, not bad though.
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by Gregatron on Aug 17, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Notre Dame is too high
I agree that they need to move down.
I’m not sure about the Big Ten teams. I keep switching back and forth on them. It might just be Ohio State fatigue winning out at this point.
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by cocknfire on Aug 17, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oklahoma?
Who’s going to block for Bradford this year? Everybody talks about what Bama and Ole Miss have to replace on the offensive line, but OU is #4? Seems awfully high to me. I think they could easily lose four games this year, although 9-3 is more likely.
by Watchman on Aug 18, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't really fathom
How Pittsburgh made it to #11. Now, Oregon St. had one of the best defenses in the Pac-10 last year, given. But Pitt still didn’t make it past the 38 yard line in the Sun Bowl en route to losing 3-0. And that was with LeSean McCoy. They will not be better with him gone.
Likewise Notre Dame, Illinois, Nevada, and Arkansas. None of those teams should be ranked right now.
I fully appreciate the need to go with what you know, which is southeastern football, but I urge you to have more than two Pac-10 teams ranked. Cal should be where Pittsburgh is currently (and Pittsburgh should be where Cal currently is), Oregon should slide in at #14 and push GTech and UGA back one each, Notre Dame should take Nevada’s spot, Florida State should move up to where Illinois is, and Illinois and Arkansas should be dropped entirely in favor of TCU and NC State, or if you don’t believe in the Wolfpack, put the Volunteers at #25 instead.
by Nashville on Aug 20, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have some legitimate points, but ...
I kind of resent the comment about southeastern football. I pay attention to the entire country, not just the SEC, even though I will admit to being more familiar with the SEC than other parts of the country. (If I’m allowing some sort of pro-SEC bias to creep in, then why is LSU ranked lower here than in most other places and why is there no way you’re going to convince me to let Tennessee in?) In order:
—You’re right that Cal should be ranked. No. 11 strikes me as a bit high, though. This is an oversight that will be corrected in the final draft, which is why we do these things.
—Pittsburgh will still be ranked, because (as I said) someone has to win the Big East. But they should probably move down.
—At the least, Notre Dame is too high and will go somewhere else.
—I’m not sure about Oregon. I’ll have to think about the Ducks. I don’t like late coaching changes.
—Nevada is staying.
—I’m uncomfortable having Florida State ranked at all given their recent track record. I’d like them to actually prove they deserve a Top 20 ranking before I give them one.
—I’m torn on Illinois. One day I want to drop them, the next day I think they’re fine.
—Arkansas should probably be gone.
—TCU probably should be in there somewhere.
—No, I don’t believe in N.C. State yet.
—An area commonly ascribed to being underneath your feet will freeze over before I will rank Tennessee this year.
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by cocknfire on Aug 21, 2009 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies
I kind of resent the comment about southeastern football. I pay attention to the entire country, not just the SEC, even though I will admit to being more familiar with the SEC than other parts of the country.
It probably came out as a slight, when I really meant it as a description of where your expertise is greatest. Your reply better captures the sense I was going for. I hope that my poor phrasing didn’t negatively predispose you to the other points I was making.
As you well know, the final 5 spots of these polls could go to about 15 different teams; those I suggested (TCU and NCSt/UT) simply have favorable schedules and slightly more tradition than the ones I proposed dropping. On the other hand, I think Arkansas will surprise a number of people this year, and Illinois was picked to finish third in the Big 10 by Dr. Saturday, so it’s not like there’s no basis for those selections. It’s more that their production and records last year – particularly that of Arkansas – are things that need to be demonstratively reversed before they receive the benefit of the doubt.
On the subject of SEC bias, I wouldn’t be too put out if there were some in there, I haven’t forgotten the name or purpose of your blog after all. But, you do an honorable thing in where you’ve ranked LSU. We’ll know more after they’ve beaten Washington, but they were not impressive in half of their regular season games last year and it’s appropriate to factor that in to these preseason rankings.
by Nashville on Aug 21, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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