Can Mark Ingram Repeat as Heisman Winner?
First of all, a belated congratulations to Mark Ingram for winning the Heisman Trophy. I suggested in my Heisman post that any of the three people whose names I submitted for the sports blog version (which Stanford's Toby Gerhart won) would be more than qualified for the award, and Ingram is.
Now, think back with me to the one of the preseason storylines that dominated the college football world in 2008 and 2009: Could Tim Tebow win another Heisman Trophy and become just the second two-time recipient in the award's history? Get ready for Ingram to be the next repeat candidate for the SEC.
Because the sophomore running back might not be just a leading contender for the trophy in 2010, but the leading contender. Consider the Top 10 vote-getters for this year's trophy.
| Player | Team | Class | Points | |
| 1 | Mark Ingram | Alabama | SO | 1,304 |
| 2 | Toby Gerhart | Stanford | SR | 1,276 |
| 3 | Colt McCoy | Texas | SR | 1,145 |
| 4 | Ndamukong Suh | Nebraska | SR | 815 |
| 5 | Tim Tebow | Florida | SR | 390 |
| 6 | C.J. Spiller | Clemson | SR | 223 |
| 7 | Kellen Moore | Boise State | SO | 100 |
| 8 | Case Keenum | Houston | JR | 37 |
| 9 | Mardy Gilyard | Cincinnati | SR | 23 |
| 10 | Golden Tate | Notre Dame | JR | 21 |
While Gerhart is eligible come back for another year despite being a senior, that seems unlikely. Which means that Ingram's nearest returning probably competitor for the award in 2010 finished more than 1,200 points behind him in this year's vote. Among some of the more likely to be in the running next year, Golden Tate has already said he'll go to the NFL and Case Keenum is considering it.
Which could basically leave Mark Ingram, Kellen Moore and a bunch of dark horses. Even if Keenum returns to Houston for his seniro season, you have to wonder whether the Cougars can have another successful season: they visit rebuilding UCLA and host and an up-and-coming Mississippi State in addition to playing Texas Tech in Lubbock. Houston also has to play a Conference USA slate that it has never swept; losses in another one or two league games could kill Keenum's campaign even if Houston can go 4-0 against nonconference opponents. (Their other out-of-league game against Navy is no cupcake.) And I still haven't given up on Nevada as a possible champion in the WAC
Meanwhile, Ingram has an advantage that Tebow didn't have in 2007: His team won an SEC Championship and is going to play for a national title with Ingram as the centerpiece of the offense. Tebow didn't even win a division title in his Heisman campaign, largely because of the defense. But there's no reason for Alabama to change things at all with regards to Ingram. They might look for a few more yards from Greg McElroy, but it would be colossally stupid for Alabama to give Ingram fewer touches next season than this one.
And the Tide offense could be expected to carry the team a little more next year with several experienced defensive starters headed for the NFL. Not only will Alabama coaches want more yards and points from Ingram's side of the ball, they would like to run the clock and try to minimize how often the other team's offense is on the field.
Not to minimize the difficulty of winning the Heisman in consecutive years; after all, if one of the greatest players of our time if not in college football history couldn't do it, then it can't be easy. Alabama will lose a couple of offensive linemen -- not that that stopped them this year. The SEC West will remain one of the toughest divisions in college football (and might actually be more competitive next year) and defenses will now focus more heavily on Ingram than ever before. Then there are the injuries and other unforeseen challenges that could derail his campaign. And of course, the next Mark Ingram (unknown player coming from nowhere) could always defeat the original Mark Ingram in 2010.
But Ingram is well positioned to get another trip to New York City in December next year. Depending on what he decides after that, even then it might not be his last.
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I don't know.
I think our offense will spread the ball around so much next year, it may be hard to get a single candidate. Ingram will probably split more carries with Richardson next year. Lots of WR talent coming back. I’ve been really impressed with Greg McElroy. He had a stint in the middle of the season where he had some trouble, but this was his first year starting after a couple years of riding the pine. He looked spectacular against Auburn and Florida. If he can perform well in the BCSCG and roll that momentum into next year, our offense should be fabulous all around.
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Hard for him to repeat
since he’s a RB, and if there is any QB with excellent #s next year, Ingram won’t win. Don’t forget that if Colt had played well in his 2 close games (OAK, NEB), he would be holding the trophy right now, not Mark.
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Probably Not
I think it has been mentioned that Ingram plays in an offense that likes to rotate runningbacks, and Alabama has one of the best in Trent Richardson. Also, more than anything even if Ingram is able to repeat and have a great year next as well, the numbers are not exactly reminiscent of Barry Sanders in 1988. If you are being objective Ingram’s numbers do not exactly look like past Heisman winners.
Also, I think it has been shown that there is some sort of bias against guys repeating as Heisman winners (Tebow 2008). Tebow had the most first place votes, but finished third in the country because people left him completely off their ballots. This was done presumably because people wanted someone else to win the Heisman.
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Tim Tebow was completely boycotted by the Southwest to favor Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy in the voting. I feel bad about Colt not being honored and I truly hate what happened to Sam Bradford but the A-holes in the Southwest voting community reaped exactly what they sowed. I hope Bama stomps a mudhole in Texas.
It wouldn't be colosally stupid, it would be status quo...
With Trent, a finally-health Goode and Matchett, and a qualified Lacy, why wouldn’t we keep spreading the wealth?
This offense is predicated on sharing the wealth, spreading the ball around, and riding the hot hand. Admittedly, Ingram is the engine that makes it run, but I’d look for more of the same next year.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 14, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions
Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the post
That’s what I thought I was trying to say with
but it would be colossally stupid for Alabama to give Ingram fewer touches next season than this one.
Not saying he gets more. About the same seems right.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
I just get a feeling that for the above reasons he might get fewer touches
I’m also pretty sure, with Mark slated to graduate early, that if we bet Tex on the 7th, that he’ll be gone after next season….really not much more to accomplish in a college career than All-American, All-SEC, Heisman winner, SEC and Nat’l champ.
If that’s the case, then I suspect we’ll see a lot more of the committee running, with a scary 3-5 man rotation.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 14, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think some wide open offense QB like Taylor Potts will grab it, or maybe the Ndamukong Suh grassroots campaign of 09 will pay off for a big ugly next year, it’s seemed like December has been defensive line awareness month.
by Alabama ManDance on Dec 14, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions
I don't think a TTU QB will ever win the award...
When even your coach says the system is responsible for success, then you’re firmly back to the dark era of Detmer/Ware.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 14, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Graham Harrell passed for a gozillion yards last year.....
…..and was not even invited to New York as a finalist.
Ditto Cumbie, Hodges, Symons and Kingsbury
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by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 14, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Can he?
Yes. Will he? Probably not. He won it this year because of an overall lack of the phenomenal numbers by any of the big names (with the exception of Suh, who wasn’t even a darkhorse candidate to start the season). Bradford’s 50+ TD’s last year and Tebow’s 20/20 season of two year’s ago are normally the kind of season you have to put together to win it. That said, if he can put together a better overall season next year, and couple that with another Bama title run it isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
The thing about winning it the second time.
The thing is he would have to better the bar he set this year. If he comes in below this season, then he would have no chance at all, it would by default go to someone else.
It’s possible, but highly unlikely. It’s a wonder he got it this year considering the type of football Alabama plays(clock management football).
Come on, if Tim Tebow couldnt win it
in 2008, no way Ingram will win it. Unless he has a record shattering year.
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if they win ncg he will goto nfl. too much dinero
i’m surprised urban is staying with florida. i see the gators as maybe the 4th best team next year in the sec. it’s quite possible they will have the kind of season that usc has had. there are alot of payback games that the gators will face so i could see a 8-5 or 9-4 season. brantley will be the qb correct? they lose alot of players this year.
yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Dec 16, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions

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