Weekend Open Thread
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 12:19 PM EST
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LSU Tigers at Alabama Crimson Tide, Nov 7, 2009 3:35 PM EST
Predictions and game thread in one because of the week that was.
South Carolina 20 at Arkansas 17, 12:21 p.m. ET, SEC Network / ESPN360
LSU 10 at Alabama 23, 3:30 p.m. ET, CBS
Memphis 6 at Tennessee, 34 7 p.m. ET, ESPNU
Vanderbilt 7 at Florida 48, 7:15 p.m. ET, ESPN2
Tennessee Tech 13 at Georgia 47, 1 p.m. ET, PPV / ESPN360
Eastern Kentucky 3 at Kentucky 37, 1 p.m. ET, PPV / ESPN360
Furman 17 at Auburn 54, 1:30 p.m. ET, PPV / ESPN360
Northern Arizona 5 at Ole Miss 64,7:30 p.m. ET, CSS / ESPN360\
We'll be around.
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Carolina strikes first, 3-0
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing that wasn’t the first quarter Texas envisioned when they signed up UCF for their post Okie St snack.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 12:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's see how the Texas apologists spin that
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas 7, South Carolina 3 --5:16 1q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fake punt = disaster for Arkansas
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
After a disastrous start, Northwestern is pushing Iowa hard.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't everyone?
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Evidently not hard enough. Even in the season of weird results Iowa’s had more than its share.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Four-of-nine for 134 and a TD – he had a couple of monster plays early when Northwestern looked utterly hapless.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Garcia with the flying sneak for the TD
XP pending
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Garcia is quite possibly the most frustrating QB to watch ever.
Kenny Miles also had two touchdowns lined up, but took lanes way too close to his blockers, instead of just prancing in the massive gaps.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Both are young
Trust me, they look far more promising than any QB-RB combo we’ve had at South Carolina since at least Phil Petty-Derek Watson in the early Holtz years
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree.
They both have tons of ability, and that’s obvious. That’s what makes it frustrating. One play is a great cut and run, or tight spiral into the perfect spot, the next play is a deep ball into triple coverage or something.
With experience, I think SC’s gonna have a heck of a combo.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
South Carolina 10, Arkansas 7 -- 12:29 2Q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pick-six on Paulus – Syracuse’s upset bid not looking so promising right now, though it was up to that point.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Northwestern employs the LOLfense
gets lucky on an Iowa holding call to bring back a long touchdown.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andre Ware comes dangerously close to comparing Broderick Green to Darren McFadden
Backs off at the last possible moment
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not a lot of Groh-mentum down Miami way right now… and if continued that means no bowl for the Cavaliers.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And, somewhere down the dial, the Last Stand of Willie Martinez… now underway.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've seen that one before.
Has the same ending as The Alamo.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PPV and 360
Can you imagine the outcry if Tennessee Tech scores 21 or so points against the Dawgs? And Mark Richt: “I don’t think its our coaching or anything.”
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Richt should have been a lawyer.
How he’s managed to explain his defense this year with publicly flogging either his players or coaches is something incredible.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This could be the first time UGA’s defensive staff asks the offence to play ball control against a AA team.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is, I'm not sure Georgia's run offense could make headway against even an FCS team
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Either the S.C. offense has clicked or the Arkansas defense is at work
I think I know which one it is.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bob Griese says something intelligent – when his booth cohort asks about the chances of an undefeated Iowa missing out on the title game, he just laughed and pointed that they’ve still got some games to win before they can start thinking about such things.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Iowa’s punter has quite a leg – almost into the end zone in the air from inside the 30.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I rewound that first false start on SC
It was a horribly blown call. Ark was offsides by a mile, and well before SC moved. How they missed that I have no idea.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, given the state of SEC officiating right now ...
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You too, pal – the SEC office needs new furniture.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Orson
Slive is currently in Biloxi blowing 30k, which he had lying around the office for no reason.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if he doubles it he’ll give the next coach a pass.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't that just be a reason to fine the next coach again
I mean, he’d be on a hot streak and everything
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm… could be. Well, as long as it ain’t Urbs I don’t care that much.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a good thing you’re not an SEC coach – otherwise that’d be 30 large right there.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With 2:23 remaining in the first half, a bad punt gives South Carolina a short field
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Headset fling by Steve Spurrier
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's just not the same...
when he doesn’t fling the visor, too.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The most terrifying sight for a Florida QB… except a smile on Mickey Andrews’ face.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see the SEC guy cower before the terror of the Spurdog?
He’s the first human to be physically scared of SOS.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
21-0 now to UGA – I think even Willie Martinez can defend that lead.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to last year's Georga Tech team
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 7, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Tennessee Tech run the triple option
Or any kind of option, come to think about it. Willie Martinez doesn’t like those.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Willie like? I mean, there has to be some kind of offence he’s brilliant at stopping, right?
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
South Carolina's
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, there’s no humour like gallows humour.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
D.J. Williams decides to make an appearance
Arkansas has 6 seconds and 1st and Goal
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mallett slips and nearly throws an interception
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas 10, South Carolina 10 -- Half
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I wrote off the Groh-ster too quickly – the Groh-aliers only trail by seven at the half.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The blocked kick
Brings bad back memories.
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 7, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rich Brooks thinks the fact that it took Kentucky nineteen minutes to get a 10-0 lead on a AA team, despite massive edges in yardage and TOP, is… well, you know the rest.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why would he expect anything more out of that offense
Injured, no less
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect that his profanities might have gone up a step in intensity a moment ago.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
South Carolina needs to do better at clock management before meeting Florida
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why are you interrupting my football game with discussion of basketball?
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Barnes sits five yards between two defenders, who respectfully watch him catch the ball
Your Arkansas defense
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So Iowa's down by a TD now
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thirteen-plus minutes to go – by Iowa’s standards we’re barely done with the pre-game introductions. “I have not yet begun to play!”
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Three safeties
and they’ve got this one in the bag. Knowing Iowa, they’ll probably throw in an interception, caught in a defenders facemask, returned for a TD.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s Iowa’s plan to win, right there.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SC should dispense with the formality of 1st and 2nd down and just go straight to 3rd and long.
INT, baby.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also on the subject of SC. . .
Where did their defense go?
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 7, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have yet to figure out the finer points of tackling
The same thing that’s done them in before, particularly against Alabama
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure Willie M isn’t consulting for you guys on the side?
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OOOO Purdue leading Michigan.
I’m gonna head over to mgoblog and get my dose of schadenfraude.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The female hog mascot on the pogo stick looks like something out of a Quinten Tarantino movie
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just looking for a director associated with weird imagery
He was the first one that came to mind
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You must have been thinking about Death Proof type Tarantino.
I, personally, refuse to believe he had anything to do with that. He went straight from KB: Vol. II to IB.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas 24, South Carolina 16 -- 3:00 3Q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Georgia 31, Tennessee Tech 0 — Halftime
Kentucky 17, Eastern Kentucky 6 — Late 2Q
Auburn 35, Furman 3 — Mid 2Q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Garcia needs to learn when to get rid of the football
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Aw… the good old “we got the first but not really because we called time-out first” screwup… Florida did that last week.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dear ESPN:
There’s no apostrophe in “its.”
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 7, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Safety
The South Carolina implosion appears to be in full force this year
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I was hoping y’all would make UT look good this week.
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 7, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas 26, South Carolina 16 -- 1:42 3Q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Iowa takes an early timeout, only one left – could be troublesome later on.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Roughing the passer works out for South Carolina
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Michael Smith might wake up in time for Thanksgiving
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice scamper by Iowa’s QB to escape what would have been a monster sack.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wiscy’s only up three now – starting at their 20 with four minutes to go.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why did you come back for this, Eric Norwood?
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Michigan goes for it on 4th
on the Purdue 30-ish. Down by 8. Run to the edge, bottled up, runner lands on top of a defender, who was out of bounds. The runner never touched the ground, however. As he was laying there, the runner pitched the ball to another UM player who ran for the first.
Play under review.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see Marc Curles and Penn Wagers try to figure that one out
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overturned.
However, I think it was 3rd down?
Stupid Big 10 channel. Stupid liveblogs.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That internal clock that tells a quarterback when he needs to get rid of the football?
Stephen Garcia doesn’t have one
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He also lacks the little internal voice that says “now might be a good time to slide and not get flattened by three angry linebackers, hero.”
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m contractually obligated to despise those khaki-wearing preppie jerks at Northwestern – says so on the back of my diploma, actually – but if they beat Iowa I’ll respect them… for one day.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
University of Chicago – we won the first Heisman trophy just to prove we could, then tore down our stadium to build a bigger library (six million volumes and counting. Oh hell, it’s probably seven million by now.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s one of those silly institutional things – we’re D-III now, in the UAA… kinda tough to get too worked up about Carnegie Mellon and Brandeis, though.
Anyhow – good job, khaki-wearing preppie jerks! The world salutes your heroic efforts to clarify the BCS picture. Please accept this invitation to a minor bowl against a mediocre Big 12 team.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
That’s my school you’re talking about! Although, to be fair, I have yet to attend a Brandeis sporting event. I had a professor suggest I go out for the soccer team. I still have a year of eligibility after only playing one in undergrad, and they need all the help they can get.
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 7, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was accepted at Brandeis, actually – fine school, thought very hard about going there, but the UofC won my heart…
I was never really interested in the fortunes of the Maroons anyhow – I was literally born a Gator (right there in the university hospital when my pops was a grad student.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I understand. I go to UIUC, but we don’t really “hate” NW, and I don’t know of any Big T(elev)en school that does.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re not really very hateable… even for us it was more of a sneering superiority. :) (There was discussion some decades back of combining the universities, and N’western was supposed to become the undergrad portion – the UofC would have been for the real scholarship, hehe.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably an approach Vanderbilt should have considered.
Seriously.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It certainly helped that UofC football sucked for decades – even the year Berwanger won the Heisman it was on a mediocre team. Once the big state schools got into the game, it became tough for the little private guys to compete. (By the way, the Michigan fight song was written after they finally beat us in a big game… shows just how long ago our glory days were.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Third down for the Hogs
Conversion pending
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Auburn 42, Furman 3 — Half
Georgia 38, Tennessee Tech 0 — Early 3Q
Kentucky 17, Eastern Kentucky 6 — Half
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, the ball moving is a catch according to the officials and the broadcasters
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seemed inevitable
I know a team acquires a myth of invincible when it dodges so many bullets, but really, if you keep playing so many close games it’s likely you’ll eventually lose one.
Glad Northwestern was the one to do it.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Honor among nerds? ;)
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
And when we add them in 2011 or whenever it is, you’ll get to hear me whine that we should be playing UT-Martin or Tennessee Tech instead that week.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It helps when your cardiac QB goes down in the first half. Not that that’s any excuse for not winning a game.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dagger
TD Arkansas
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas 33, South Carolina 16
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like the Black Knight in Monthy Python, South Carolina insists it's merely a flesh wound
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s very courteous of SC to get the necessary six wins and then lose to fellow SEC teams in need. Very courteous indeed.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really beginning to truly loathe Arkansas
It used to be a contrived rivalry, but after the last few years I’m getting to where I want them to be demolished every time they take the field
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the first step to a "real" rivalry.
It would be nice to have another one on the schedule. LSU is okay, but our ad hoc rivavlry with TAMU and our temporary one with Ole Miss just doesn’t have the same luster.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Chinchili Day and Liberty Mutual commercials are as good as the Hampton Inn ones are bad
Oh how I hate those Hampton Inn commercials. I will never again stay in a HI just to spite them.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If anyone’s interested, I just read that Stanzi might have a high ankle sprain… seriously bad news for Iowa if true, I’d be surprised if he made it back next week.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That is bad news for them...
They looked lost without him.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the national hopes are pretty much dead – it would take 2007-like carnage to clear a path back to the top – but the Big 10 title is still very much in play.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I don’t think they ever had any national hopes. I fully expected them to be Rose Bowlin’. If they don’t take care of OSU next week, though, they won’t even get that. To be honest, the 8-0 record was impressive, but the fact that they had to come from behind against N. Iowa and Ark. St. always made me scratch my head.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They were definitely living above their station. As a fan of a team ahead of them in the polls all season, they did concern me just a bit – a slip here or there, and they could have eeled their way into the game, especially since the non-MOV considering computers really liked them (until their SOS tanked.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’ll be treated a bit more harshly in the human polls now. There’s a chance they could drop to somewhere between 20-25 (not all the way out, though).
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d guess mid to lower teens – there’s a lot mediocrity floating around there after ten or eleven.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Upper teens
They still have a nice record and some good wins and things really are dreadful after about No. 10
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Upper = 12-15 range
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s what I meant – I think of ‘lower teens’ as being 11-15 and ‘upper’ as 16-19, but maybe I’ve got things backward.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I was backward. That’s why I clarified.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I should feel encouraged about the program long term
South Carolina has the kind of good young players that can build a team. But after three or four building years, it’s hard to feel like there’s anything to get excited about.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arkansas 33, South Carolina 16
Final
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lunch run
Will return in time for LSU-Alabama
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Navy’s got the early lead on ND – gotta love Academy football… 4 yds passing (1/1 baby!) and 103 rushing.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CBS commentators say there's no replay?
That’s just asking for more controversy.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s all a fiendish plot to feed Slive’s river-boat habit.
Step 1 – Miss calls.
Step 2 – Coach complains
Step 3 – Fine ’em.
Step 4 – Partay!!!
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, if the SEC PR folks were smart, they'd spend the money for more training for officials
But craps is way more fun
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it actually goes to graduate scholarships. Craps is way more fun, though, no question.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a power outage. In Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Lane Kiffin is suspicious
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McElroy finally throws more than five yards past the line of scrimmage – and heaves it over the head of an open receiver. I guess we can see why Bama favours the YAC offence.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3rdandChavis3rdandChavis3rdandChavis
That underneath stuff will be open all day. John Chavis is…not good. I’m biased, of course, because UF has property rights on his soul, but still. He’s extremely predictable. Combine that with LSU’s inability to get pressure without blitzing, and you’ve got the makings of huge YAC and consistent 3rd down conversions.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bama was moving it pretty well with short passes, until Ingram forgot which version of football he was playing and tried to score on a header.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LSU is fortunate to not get OPI on that one
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by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess the official didn’t think the defender could make a pick… and the yardage wouldn’t mattered much. Bama might have declined and taken the fourth anyhow.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is really ****ing me off now.
Why the heck is Ohio State – Penn State blacked out for me? I get GT – WF on ABC, and I’m supposed to get OSU – PSU on ESPN2, but instead I get ESPNEWS. This happened last week with the Oregon – USC game.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s weird. You might need to call your friendly local cable provider to enquire…
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And by enquire I of course mean “do your best Rich Brooks impression.”
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have Comcast.
The last time I called, the guy was in Montreal, had no idea what cable package I had (let alone what was wrong with it) and couldn’t schedule a technician to come for 3 days.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Delightful. My cable in bundled with the apartment, so I don’t have to deal with them. (Dealing with ATT for the phone and DSL makes up for it.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're angry about missing Big Ten football? ;)
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More angry about being subjected to the ACC with no ability to watch either the B10 or Pac 10 major games.
It’s beyond moronic. Who actually watches ACC football?
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NFL fans
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a sickness. I’m told he’s getting the best possible care.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Navy 14-0 on ND close to the half.
Stanford was up 10-0, but Oregon just ran it in from 60 yards out.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A bit of life for what has been a dull game so far
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Penn St and Ohio St can produce a first quarter TD, then so can LSU and Bama, by god!
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it was.
Danielson’s right about Jones though. Any decent safety should have been there. Jones is more than decent, so if he was limping that would make sense.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was limping afterward
Looked like he rolled his ankle just a bit post-play
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
End 1st Quarter
Still scoreless
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boy, Washington St is bad. I know Arizona is a pretty good team this year (they could still win the Pac-10), but to give up 24 in the first?
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oregon’s having some troubles defensively too – 129 yards and 17 points with time left in the first.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Georgia 38, Tennessee Tech 0
Final
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess Willie M survives another week.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the other end of the spectrum, Auburn is about to win despite allowing 24 points to Furman
Furman!
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
31 points! FURMAN!
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was 42-3 at the half… Aubie’s obviously got some depth issues.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make that 31 or 32
Furman just scored again.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me?!
Why on Earth is throwing for 400 on UCF considered a “Heisman Moment”.
I hate Tim Brando.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Brando is not bound by these "facts" that trouble your inferior mind
For an alum of a BCS school, he spends a lot of time touting midmajors. I suspect this is a symptom of that affliction.
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he mainly touts midmajors
because he genuinely hates the BCS, and wants it destroyed. That doesn’t make UCF a viable opponent, however. It’s like pointing to Tebow tearing up Troy and calling that a “Heisman Moment”.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sagarin’s numbers put Troy at 59 & 72 (Elo-chess and Predictor), and UCF at 83 & 88. Tearing up Troy might actually be better than tearing up UCF – though after the gap reaches a certain point the precise size is entirely academic. :)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alabama's defense decides to fall asleep on the pass play
TD LSU with XP pending
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Strike that. Just a well schemed and executed play by LSU
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LSU 7, Alabama 0 -- 9:12 1Q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kentucky 37, Eastern Kentucky 12
Final
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arenas to midfield
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The offenses finally figured out that a football game was being played around them
They decided to take part
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stanford is coasting against Oregon
Don’t forget that the Cardinal are not out of things in the Pac-10
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We could end up with an awful tangle in the Pac 10 – six teams right now with two or fewer conference losses, and perhaps still as many as five after today. (Not many teams have a more exciting finishing run than Arizona – Cal, Oregon, ASU and USC.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bama kicking a figgie in the red zone? No way!
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LSU 7, Alabama 3 -- 5:52 2Q
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How many stoppages in play have we had in LSU-Alabama already?
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maze is having a breakout game
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's incidental???
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’d have thrown a flag there.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A Jarrett Lee appearance could certainly add some spice to this game
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I spice all my meals with pick-sixes.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that's what's in "All Spice"?
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Nov 7, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We could have some interesting scores at half-time. (And by “interesting”, I of course mean deeply weird.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad I’m not McElroy, and heading to the locker room for a chat with Nick Saban.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ND’s looking pretty competent right now. I obviously jinxed Navy by flipping over.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha – reverse-jinx! Take that Jimmy and Fat Charlie!
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interception...
and a lack of composure by Clausen. That’ll kill you everytime. I got bored with LSU-’Bama.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It really looked as if the receiver had no idea he was going to be thrown to – freakish bounce, though.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It kind of looked like he was trying to block. Maybe he was thinking it was a run play?
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A run play, or perhaps a screen on that side.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No where near as freaky as the ping-pong intercetion last week(?). I can’t remember who was playing, though.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really nice drive by Bama. They’ve been waiting for one like that for a while now.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Big XII "upsets"
Colorado beats TAMU, Baylor beats Mizzou.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boy, Mizzou has just been a terrible disappointment this year, even given all the talent they lost. Yikes.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Navy got away with DPI – holding, at least.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They actually called PI against Navy a few plays ago in the endzone, when Michael Floyd actually pushed off and should have been called for OPI. Them’s the breaks.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ND got a TD on the drive anyhow, so it all evened out.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just realized that...
The Mountain West has as many ranked teams as the SEC, ACC, and Big XII.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 5:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind.
ND Safety. Midshipmen win (in theory).
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So – how many times can Fat Charlie lose to Navy and keep his job?
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Having a decided schematic advantage
means you never actually have to beat anyone to keep your job.
Well, seriously I think he probably gets one more year unless they collapse down the stretch. You don’t think they’d off him after a 9-4 season, even if they would be by far the worst 9-4 team in America?
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot they play Pittsburgh next week
I was counting one more loss for the bowl, but Pitt, UConn, and Stanford probably add up to an expectation of one more loss, eh?
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d expect one more in there – Pitt’s actually pretty good this year, and Stanford is really sticking it to last week’s darling Oregon.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The way Stanford’s playing today, I wouldn’t consider that game to be an automatic W, especially considering that game’s in Palo Alto.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was a lot closer than it ought to have been.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad for ND
that Wazzu insisted on adhering to the “only schedule an opponent once in a season” approach.
I’m joking, of course. Navy-ND is an annual tradition, which is the only reason ND schedules this tough.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet ND wishes their traditional Academy opponent was Army…
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So apparently no-one told Oregon and Stanford they were allowed to suit up their defences – both teams over four hundred yards at the end of the third.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sure was a strange decision to go for two for LSU.
With Bama’s inability in the red zone, two field goals could be lethal.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing’s ever strange for the Riverboat Gambler (and I’m not talking about Mike Slive).
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see that frat boy that was missing the finger?
That was a little surprising.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol yes
i specifically came here to see if anyone else did….glad you beat me to it
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL YAKNAWIMEAN?
by smeargle on Nov 7, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It spooked my girlfriend.
We then speculated as to how it happened. My guess? A horrible Croakies accident.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any other kind of Croakies accident?
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Nov 7, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohio State’s looking like your new Big 10 front-runner – up 17 and driving mid-way through the fourth. Judging from the box, the score is a fair reflection of the game.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Paul Johnson looks like a 55 year old Michael Cera...
Dum spiro spero - "While I breathe, I hope"
State motto of South Carolina
by The Feathered Warrior on Nov 7, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oregon needs 20 points in eleven minutes. Even with the defence on display in this game that might be tough… especially since Stanford has racked up 48 points and 480 yards itself already.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They might get 20 points in that span...
They just have to be unanswered.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that’s a nice head-set fling, Nick – Stevo would be proud the form and passion displayed.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
IMO, this is 4 down territory for LSU
2 point lead is worthless.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW.
WTF was that? LSU plays very good D all year and then just craps the bed.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And again with the nonexistent tackling.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s going to be a painful one in film-study.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the first quarter, Utah is tied 7-7 with New Mexico, and has been outgained. That’s 0-8 New Mexico, by the way.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You could say that UNM has punched Utah in the mouth.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, there’s nothing finer than a Locksley joke. Well done. :)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's just how their football coach settles things
Women’s soccer has a different approach.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad for that girl.
College and high school soccer players aren’t used to being on TV. As such, dirty play is commonplace. What she did in that game occurred in about every game I played in high school, except for the hair pulling (obviously).
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wake punts rather than attempt a very long figgie – GaTech has it inside their five with less than a minute left, all tied.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fourth & 1 for GaTech inside the ten, Johnson’s thinking it over.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And they get it on the second try – dicked around hoping for the offsides, then took a TO, then went for it.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What a joke.
I can’t wait to play this team.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you think that instead of just announcing that a play stands, they should clarify whether video replay confirms the call or that there’s insufficient evidence to overturn a call?
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand
was that one foot not good enough as evidence?
SEC refs are terrible this year
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Time to start conspiracy talks again?
That was a pretty clear pick.
by MexiHog on Nov 7, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt go that far
I will just concede they are bad
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shhh...
You’ll draw a fine from Mike Slive.
What’s that you say? Fans aren’t subject to 10.5.4?
Give it time.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This thread could have funded a fine day at the riverboat.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm a coach pulling 4 mil a year.
I take the fine and go ballistic. How can this happen every week? So incompetent.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But you don’t want to be the guy that Mike Slive decides to suspend.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right – unless you’ve got a real weenie coming up next.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hehe – Louisiana Tech. (Though Boise St had trouble with them.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The day this conference actually suspends one of it's superstar coaches
is the day it officially becomes a joke. No coach should ever be suspended for telling the truth about the SEC’s failures
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't be conspiracy
I think that refs go into every game with an idea of which team is “supposed to win” — on merit, not because Birmingham called and said so. However, I think about the last outcome Birmingham wants is Alabama in a dodgy victory.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overdid it with the synecdoche there
Obviously the majority of the population of B’ham would rather Bama win and look terrible than lose and look great. Mike Slive would probably rather have a respectable LSU win than a dubious Alabama one, though.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the announcers should just call the replays because they must have better
angels then the refs, lol
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d be fine with that, they seem to get correct more often, usually faster
by MexiHog on Nov 7, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
another onside kick
but this time lsu makes the fg
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oregon has closed it to six, but Stanford has the ball after a failed onsides.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Entertaining, however – wild race out there.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm not mistaken
Oregon is still in the driver seat, even if they lose today.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona can also win the league simply by winning out, even if Oregon rallies here. The Pac-10 tiebreaker is a nasty convoluted thing, too; a multi-way tie could get messy.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How does a game between two Pac-10 teams back up your assertion
that that league is a joke? Seems like it would be a zero-sum game, increasing your esteem for the Pac-10 as much as it undermines it. (Stanford is in the Pac-10.)
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game is, in someways...
Equivalent to Vandy beating Florida.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Washington State begs to differ at your Stanford = Vandy assertion.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Stanford’s more at the SoCar level.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well the top teams of that conference have 2 losses so far
thats a joke
oregon lost to boise state
usc was murded by oregon
that means the enitire pac10 isnt better then boise state
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come now.
You know college football doesn’t work that way.
by dxf04 on Nov 7, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since when do the top teams make up the entirety of a conference?
I get that the muppets on TV talk that way. They say a lot of things that are stupid.
If you were going to somehow rate the Pac-10, wouldn’t you weight Wazzu as much as Oregon? Especially since (unlike the SEC schedule), every other Pac-10 opponent plays both of them once?
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So what is your arguement?
why is the pac10 a good conference this year?
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I said will be proven
when the rankings come out and no pac10 team will be in the top 10 maybe even top 15. when is the last time a pac10 team didnt have a team in the top 10?
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does having a top 10 team
have to do with top-to-bottom strength of a league? If your assertion is that the three best teams in the Pac-10 are worse than the three best teams in the SEC, I’d think that would be beyond question. But that’s not the same thing as talking about the overall strength of the league.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here it is
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm
If you have specific critiques of Sagarin’s methodology, I’m all ears. I’m not open to, arguments along the lines of, “Computers just don’t see the qualitative look and feel that humans can,” unless you’ve watched as many games as Sagarin is putting into his ratings.
Incidentally, since I gather Boise State has something to do with your axe to grind, I’m pretty adamant that in the present system undefeated I-A teams shouldn’t be embargoed from the MNCG unless there are more than two of them. And that the present system is a farce, but we know that.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sagarin is the worst.
I don’t really have an opinion on this subject, but Sagarin is awful.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
What don’t you like about his methodology? How could it be better?
(Sincere questions — I don’t know the details, but you apparently do.)
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has the ACC third and the Big East over the Big 12
Methodology is irrelevant when the results are utter stupidity.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You made me curious
So I looked up where the ACC teams are. I’m sure we could all critique individual standings like Clemson 18th or BC 28th but I’d like to get a better understanding of WHY those teams are there.
One thing about Sagarin vis a vis other computer ratings is that he’s more open-minded about good I-AA teams. Of course the ACC earned its scorn for losses to Richmond and William & Mary, but it’s interesting that these are two of the top 3 in I-AA and among Sagarin’s top 60 in all of Division I. So that’s one methodological issue that you can accept or question, but at least it does seem to be characteristic of Sagarin.
If there are other quant rankings you like better, I might like them better too. But I’d caution against, “such and such outcome can’t POSSIBLY be accurate, therefore these ratings suck,” arguments without understanding why the surprising outcome came to pass.
Of course, it would help if Sagarin would publish his methodology!
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Top-to-bottom
The BXII has 2 teams 90 or below (CU, Baylor). The BT has two in the 90s (IU, NW, although that may change after today). Unless I’m overlooking something, the 2nd worst ACC team (NCSU) is 80th.
(Rather amazingly, the 2nd-bottom SEC team is apparently Kentucky at 46th! Of course Vanderbilt’s far worse than any of the ones mentioned so far, but the SEC’s strength 1-11 is astounding.)
I’m really just reversing the, “Who has the most top 10 teams?” method, but it’s a valid point. People tend to rate conferences by their top teams, but you don’t generally play top teams more often than bottom teams. Since we usually discuss conference strength as a proxy for comparing schedules, it makes sense that Kentucky would matter as much as Alabama.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cant just take someones word for it
You would have to explain to me on how he comes up with these rankings, all I see is a bunch of numbers
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then we're at an impasse
I don’t think you can answer the question without numbers, and you don’t think you can answer the question with them.
I don’t think you’re weighing Vanderbilt or WSU at all in assessing their respective conferences, and you don’t think they’re relevant to assessing each conference.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?
I dont have a problem with numbers, I just want to know how he comes up with the ratings and such. where is a guide to how this works without taking this dudes word fot it.
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I wish he’d publish his methods too.
There may be other comp. rankings I like better, I just don’t know about them yet.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like Bama will
have to deal with another weak win this week
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Alabama 24, LSU 15
Final
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And that pretty much knocks the Pac-10 out of the title picture – every team has at least two losses, and it would take a lot of carnage at the top of the polls for a two-loss team to creep back into it.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mute + Gator Radio Network it is!
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aaaand my tuner is busted.
Davie….!
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It looked like Tebow might have had room to run, too… oh well.
And yeah, Cooper’s kinda like Sturgis – the higher the degree of difficulty the better.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Has bad Addazio returned?
Offense looks listless.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If all we’re going to do is pound away inside, let’s just give it to Moody.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To his credit, Moody's gotten some touches.
Of course he decides to press “shuffle” on his playcalling remote inside the red zone, though.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was a nice drive until the 20.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And if we’re going to pound Tebow inside, why not go with a jumbo package and really pound? Or spread it out and give Tebow a chance to find a gap against a depleted front… this half-assed, “we’re not doing anything special, let’s fake a pitch” approach gets us the worst of both worlds.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
It’s not heavy duty smashmouth, and it’s not any serious misdirection. It’s just lame.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Without this D
I wonder if we would be above .500
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We’d have lost once or twice with an ordinary D – but we wouldn’t have won in ’06 with an ordinary D either. (Or ’96 or ’08, despite the firepower of those offences.)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not complaining it was a compliment to the D
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know – I just get the sense from Florida fans sometimes that it isn’t quite right to win with D.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see
Troy – W
CSU – W
UT – Toss up
UK – W
LSU – L
Ark – L
MSU – Toss up
UGA – W
Somewhere between 6 – 2 and 4 – 4.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
So thats what happens when Tebow pitches it
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anything good on TV tonight?
For some reason the TV ended up on ESPN2, but that’s going to change.
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 7, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tulsa-Houston looks wild – well over two hundred yards combined with more than five minutes to go in the first.
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i know, i think we have seen it enough already on every espn show
by Hook85 on Nov 7, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Though the constant cuts to Spikes do allow us to marvel at how different he looks – wow. I just hope the beard wasn’t the source of his line-backing prowess, or we’re in trouble. :)
by peachy rex on Nov 7, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alabama-LSU wrap is up
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thread bogged down
Jump to the overflow here
Team Speed Kills. All SEC, all the time.
by cocknfire on Nov 7, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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