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Andy Staples Has a Good Point on the BCS

Unless something drastic happens, the inside track to the BCS championship game is held by the SEC champ and Texas. If each of them are undefeated, they'll play for it all because there's such a large gap between the top three in the current poll and everyone else.

That means other undefeated conference champions would be left out. The most interesting case of a team being left out, as SI's Andy Staples astutely pointed out, is that of Iowa.

Now, I know it's a bit premature to start worrying about this, especially since the Hawkeyes haven't exactly been dominant and they still have to play in Columbus, a place they've won in exactly twice since 1960. If you're a BCS hater though, you should root for Iowa to keep winning and finish undefeated at No. 3 or 4.

Staples reminds us that the Big Ten and its cantankerous commissioner Jim Delaney were the primary opponents to the ACC- and SEC-sponsored plus one plan of 2008. Delaney sees his role in college football as twofold: to promote the image of his conference and along with that to preserve the Big Ten/Pac-10 tradition of the Rose Bowl. Anything that might benefit the game as a whole, like a plus one might do, is irrelevant to him. A plus one might make people think of the Rose Bowl as less important, so he killed it.

There will be no tears shed in these parts for an Iowa team left out of the national title game. They'll be getting exactly what their conference commissioner signed them up for.

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Would love to see an undefeated Big 10 champ go into the Rose Bowl and lay another giant egg. The more their reputation looking more and more like the Big East, the sooner we might see some changes to the postseason.

by falcontom on Nov 4, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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Said that perfectly, and i might shed a tear because playing Iowa would be an easily won ship…who wouldnt want that as a gator? And i think that this year is a prime example of why there needs to be Playoffs in college football. We could call it Janurary Jubilee haha

by gatorempire127 on Nov 4, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You best be worried about getting out of Atlanta....

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by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 4, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Iowa goes undefeated

And then gets blasted by Oregon or USC in the Rose bowl, i’ll laugh my ass off. Agreed, though, it’s what the big 10 gets: they don’t play a round robin (like the Pac-10 does) or a conference championship game. Get this, ya’ll: it’s possible for two teams to come out of the Big 10 undefeated in any given year. I almost want that to happen because the Big 10 would be boned for that.

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by bobo_the_vol on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We’ve come very close to that with 12-0 OSU and 11-1 Wisconsin who didn’t play each other in 2006, and even closer in 2002 with OSU and Iowa both undefeated in conference but who had an out of conference loss to Iowa State.

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by Year2 on Nov 4, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For clarity

Iowa had the loss to Iowa State in ‘02. Anyone could probably figure that out, but since comments can’t be edited…

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by Year2 on Nov 4, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jim delaney did lose one battle.

starting next year or the year after the rose bowl has to take a non aq tbcs team that is qualified. the scenario that has to happened though is the big ten and pac-ten champion is not as qualified. as high in the bcs rankings. tcu this year would be perfect example.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 4, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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Beginning in 2010 the Rose Bowl has to take a non-AQ BCS team if either the Big 10 or Pac-10 champion plays in the MNC game. For example, if Arizona and Wisconsin are champions of their respective league, but TCU is ranked higher than one of them, the Pac-10 and Big Ten champs will still meet in the Rose Bowl. It is merely in the first year that this doesn’t happen and a non-AQ team is qualified that they will go to the RB. However,

This is due to ESPN flexing its muscle after winning the contract to televise all BCS games.

by Nashville on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not at all arguing or disagreeing.

I personally don’t have that much problem with the current BCS setup, even though a pack of half-starved hyenas might make a better polling/ranking system. But that’s really an opinion thing and there’s no need to be worried about it.

I will say, however, that the current BCS setup is probably the worst of all possible scenarios for the Big Ten. Without a conference championship game, they don’t have that final opportunity to bump the resume of their conference champ, which particularly hurts in the computers. And without the round-robin format of the PAC-10 and MWC, the Big 10 doesn’t have the ability to define a clear champ, which particularly hurts in the human polls (where votes are more prone to be split amongst conference equals).

OSU has made it to the final game recently only because there was nobody within conference who could challenge them, and teams in other conferences (i.e. USC) screwed up along the way. But in any given year, between a one-loss USC (or Oregon now), a one-loss Big Ten champ, or a one-loss SEC champ, the Big Ten champ is the most likely to be left out of the picture.

I don’t have any real animosity toward the Big Ten. They’re fun to cheer against, sure, but it’s only for entertainment purposes for me. However, if you’re going to design a system that has some arbitrary judgments in place (as all postseason systems do), it’s always considered good sportsmanship to pick a system that hurts your own interests equally or more than any others. And that’s what Delaney has done.

What a guy. ;-)

by Hooper on Nov 5, 2009 8:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There are things the Big 10 could do to alleviate its difficulties – adding a twelfth team, forming divisions, and playing a championship game on the last day of the regular season in some centrally located monster stadium, for example. It could also tell someone to take a hike, and play a complete round-robin.

It chose to become an eleven team conference, and now it continues to choose – for various reasons – to not alter its oddball size or fiddle with its scheduling. It also chooses to submarine proposals from other conferences that would make its oddball size and sub-optimal scheduling irrelevant, such as the plus-one. So, you know, screw ’em.

by peachy rex on Nov 5, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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