Kicking Off Week 13 with Rivalries and Trouble in Athens // 11.23.09

GATOR HYPE-O-METER
On a scale of 1 to 100

Hovering. Between the offensive malaise and the emergence of other contenders, the buzz is being kept in check.
UPS AND DOWNS
A look at who's going which way in college football
RICH BROOKS
Wins second game of Kentucky career against SEC East team not named "Vanderbilt." Now, if he could just get his players to play like that against South Carolina and Tennessee ...
NICK SABAN
We were wrong. The LSU program can't run itself no matter who you put in charge.
LES MILES
What's worse: Throwing your offensive coordinator and quarterback under the bus, or lying to do it?
CHARLIE WEIS
When you're calling for your own firing, things are really going downhill.
RICH RODRIGUEZ
When was the last time Michigan had two losing seasons in a row? The players will just have to hit the weight room a little harder if the offseason.
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
A few things to think about this week
Bragging rights are the most important rights of all
Two SEC coaches could really use victories over their ACC rivals this weekend: Mark Richt and Steve Spurrier.
Richt is probably pretty obvious. He and his coordinators have been under fire from the Dawgs faithful for months, and many have already written off Saturday's showdown with Georgia Tech as a loss. Most Georgia fans would have told you a couple of years ago this should never happen, but a 45-42 defeat last year and a disappointing 2009 will change that.
For Spurrier, it's more about direction. South Carolina is in the process of fading down the stretch for the third year in a row; a win against Clemson this Saturday would not only give the Gamecocks a rare victory in the cross-state showdown, it would give them a chance to move up a bit in the bowl selection process and maybe end up with the second 8-5 record in Spurrier's tenure. Otherwise, expect more questions about just when he's going to become a regular at a Myrtle Beach golf club near you.
I might be the only person still upset with changing the Iron Bowl to a Friday game and the battle for the boot (LSU-Arkansas) to a Saturday game, but that's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. It might not be a long-lived tradition to have the Tigers and the Hogs play on the day after Thanksgiving, but it's our short-lived tradition. But that's when they'll play this week.
There are other rivalries on tap as well on this final weekend of the regular season. The Egg Bowl is reprised, with Ole Miss once again on pace to close the season strong but facing a Mississippi State that is improving under Dan Mullen. Tennessee looks to continue its lengthy winning streak against Kentucky after the 'Cats exciting win over Georgia; Florida faces Florida State after yet another subpar season for the Seminoles.
Poll position
There was no apparent reason for doing so in any of the results this weekend, but some voters tinkered with the Top 3 on their ballots after three games in which nothing really changed. In the AP, the order remained the same but one first-place vote went from No. 2 Alabama to No. 3 Texas. There were no other changes. Florida and Alabama both lost a first-place vote and a point in the coaches' poll when two votes simply disappeared.
LSU went from No. 10 to No. 17 in the AP poll and the coaches' ballots. Ole Miss re-emerged at No. 20 in the AP survey and at No. 25 among the coaches. As usual, the fact that the Rebels have the much-hyped head-to-head victory and a better overall resume than the Bayou Bengals can't overcome poll inertia.
The Harris voters are now given three votes to TCU because -- well, why not? LSU goes from 10 to 16 and Ole Miss is at No. 25. Temple, Nevada and Oklahoma all get votes.
The new dean?
It's still a very remote possibility that Richt will be fired at the end of this season, though it can't be ruled out in 2010 if things don't get better in Athens. But if something were to happen to end Richt's tenure with the Dawgs, the man in line to become dean of SEC coaches would be Vanderbilt's Bobby Johnson. That would be a bit odd for the longest serving coach to be at its most consistently underperforming school.
But even if Johnson were to leave the Commodores at the same time, the next candidate in line would be no more likely a choice: Kentucky's Rich Brooks. Brooks was in serious danger of being fired after the 2005 season, by which point he had gone 9-25 in Lexington before the historic stretch of four consecutive bowl-eligible seasons.
Not that the title is one to fight for. It finally caught up to Phil Fulmer last year, and it's causing problems for Richt now. Sometimes, being the new guy gives you a bit more breathing room.
SEC NEWS
GEORGIAPOCALYPSE
This might be humorous if it were gallows humor
But I'm pretty sure the Senator was being serious when he said this:
I’m being a little unfair to Kentucky with this. There’s a clear talent gap between the ‘Cats and the Dawgs – Georgia’s coaches aren’t as good as Kentucky’s at getting their charges prepared to play hard for sixty minutes.
To recap: A Georgia fan thinks his coaches were outdone by a centenarian, a man named Joker and a defensive coordinator whose name know one knows. This movie doesn't end well.
The Mayor's take
It's also not good for the Dawgs brain trust.
The last sixteen games, during which the ‘Dawgs have gone 9-7 and conceded 34 or more points eight times, have set this program back fifteen years. ... We are where we were in the mid-1990s and we face a massive rebuilding job, one which will require replacing at least some of the contractors and masons currently assigned to the task.
Harsh words, but probably just as hard to write for their author.
David Hale writes long and thoughtful blog posts
Which is why this line has to be troubling for Dawgs fans:
With as much abject failure as occurred in a 30-minute span, it's hard to fully grasp it in totality.
He then dissects a quote by Richt and shows how its wrong. The sharp knives are being unsheathed in the Peach State.
Some are starting to ask serious questions
I'm not sure what the answer to this one is, in part because I'm not a Georgia fan.
They're even coming up with new words
Sad thing is, even getting to Shreveport might require some help.
Georgia will be led by Uga VIII eventually
There are rules that must be followed.
HEISMAN RACE
That and 693 yards rushing
If you want to argue about Heisman candidates, that's fine. But this kind of stuff is just absurd.
Ingram also leaves games when they're over
Case in point: He sat down with almost 10 minutes left in the second quarter of the Chattanooga game. When did Tebow leave the FIU game again?
Tebow does have the most rushing touchdowns in SEC history
Then again, the Heisman is for a season and not a career.
ELSEWHERE
The truth is out there
It's just not likely going to be spoken by Les Miles.
Thank you, civilization
KKK members attending the "protest" against the loss of TSWRA: 12. Size of a diverse group of counterprotesters: 250. But what's the likelihood that those numbers will change the perception of the South?
Not that it was harmless
You know, Houston, I can't really blame recruits for staying away from a potential Klan rally. Call me crazy -- well, actually, you have no room to call anyone crazy -- but I would have stayed away.
Arenas sets record
Most punt-return TDs in SEC history now resides in Alabama. More are in reach for the talented return man.
Sometimes, it doesn't even require asking a question
As much fire as Richt and Co. might be taking in Athens, even darker clouds are gathering in Baton Rouge.
Because no one else is playing football, apparently
ESPN is going to Gainesville to cover the annual Florida-Florida State game because ... because ... I have no idea why they think this is the best game of the weekend. It will end with a dazed Bobby Bowden walking out of the stadium muttering questions to himself about what Chris Rix was thinking when he threw that interception and why Steve Spurrier called a pass play for that tenth touchdown.
I would have 'mixed feelings' about the Pro Combat uniforms as well
But mostly because they are bizarre beyond words.
Concussion optional
Some fans are going to wear eye black as a tribute to Tim Tebow. I actually have nothing cynical to say about this.
That's Paul Petrino, not Bobby
Though you could be forgiven for assuming it was the Arkansas head coach interviewing for the job at Western Kentucky. Being Bobby's brother, he learned from the best.
How could the Renardo Sidney situation get even more convoluted
By getting the courts involved.
Injury Report
RB Michael Smith (Arkansas)
Hamstring injury, season
LB A.J. Jones, OL Carl Johnson (Florida)
MCL injury, likely out for the week; ankle sprain, questionable
OTHER NEWS
Ohio State will not be defeated by 40 by Southern Cal this year
Instead, it will be a team from Oregon selected to annihilate the Buckeyes in Pasadena. Musberger still thinks Southern Cal deserves to play for the national title.
The next hurdle for Boise
Nevada has actually started putting their season back together just as they're about to take on Boise for the WAC title.
I'm actually beginning to respect Charlie Weis quite a bit
Say whatever you want about the Irish and their blunt head coach, but at least he's bluntly honest about himself too.
"If they decide to make a change, I'd have to say I'd have a tough time arguing with that. If they decide to make a change, I'd have a tough time arguing that because 6-5 is not good enough. Especially when you've lost five games by a touchdown or less and several three-point games that went right down to the wire."
That's honesty.
You could get better votes of confidence
Read this story very closely: "Departing" athletics directors don't tend to be the best people to guarantee your job.
It's not just football that's disappointing in Norman
"Choke-lahoma"? I'm sorry, but at this point I would have to absolutely agree with that nickname.
Everybody has a bad BCS game or five -- it's when you start losing them in the regular season that they notice.
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That and 693 yards rushing
If you want to argue about Heisman candidates, that’s fine. But this kind of stuff is just absurd.
Ingram also leaves games when they’re over
Case in point: He sat down with almost 10 minutes left in the second quarter of the Chattanooga game. When did Tebow leave the FIU game again?
Tebow does have the most rushing touchdowns in SEC history
Then again, the Heisman is for a season and not a career.
LOL, HATERADE anyone…
"Why does bottled water have an expiration date?"
by Hook85 on Nov 23, 2009 6:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Tebow has not been playing up to his standards this year, and by any reasonable check of recent winners, he’s only in the class of Heisman winner that Eric Crouch is. Which is to say, if he gets it this year, it’s only as a lifetime achievement award.
Tebow’s numbers are all down from each of the past two years. His decision making has been down this year. He’s turned it over a lot more frequently than he has the past two years. He’s overthrown almost every deep pass since the Troy game. It’s not Haterade to suggest that the guy isn’t Heisman material since by just about every measure, he’s not. If leading a team to an unbeaten record is all it takes, then John Parker Wilson should have been in the thick of the Heisman race last year until after the SEC title game.
That’s not to say that Ingram is having a classic Heisman year either though. He’s on pace to have what would be the fewest rushing yards at the time of the vote for any running back winner in 30 years. By comparison, he’s only outrushing Anthony Dixon by under a yard and a half per game.
Right now, the only guy on a top team that’s having a normal Heisman-like year is Colt McCoy, unless someone can figure out how to give it to both Tony Pike and Zach Collaros at the same time.
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by Year2 on Nov 23, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it is hating
HEISMAN RACE
not a Tebow debate, or Tebow vs Ingram. Is Tebow and Ingram the only canidates?
I dont think Tebow should win the Heismen. But its clear with his comments, he wouldnt want Tebow to win the Heismen no matter what his numbers looked like. His numbers just fuels his fire. Also, numbers arnt everything. Numbers are meant to describe how well that player played that season. Tebow isnt getting 5 td’s a game, but there has been many games that his great playing gave them a siginficant chance to win.
The point is, why does he care so much if Tebow is a canidate. Because he is tired of the Tebow media, and he believes the only reason he is a canidate is because of them. So he must go out of his way to discredit him. =hating
"Why does bottled water have an expiration date?"
by Hook85 on Nov 25, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SATSQ
“Can Mark Richt-as-head-coach recover from a game like that?”
No.
by D.N. Nation on Nov 23, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can you really call Vandy underperforming?
What are they underperforming? Certainly not expectations (except maybe this year, and that’s only because they exceeded them last year).
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 23, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If no one cares about the difference between 2-10 and 5-7
…then I can’t explain all the conflict on the Vanderbilt message boards these days, because I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be the same story if we’d finished 5-7.
“that’s only because they exceeded them last year” – I don’t get that point at all. Last year’s results are a pretty inherent part of this year’s expectations for every single team in all of history. Do you think Ole Miss underperformed expectations this year?
by PhilipVU94 on Nov 23, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I wasn't very clear
I don’t mean to say that Vandy is not underperforming this year. I’m just not convinced that they’re consistently underperforming. I’m not a Vandy fan, so maybe I’m wrong. But I always thought that Johnson tended to get all he could out of mediocre talent.
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 23, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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