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Saban Bowl III: Loving Nick and Les

With this week's big showdown in Tuscaloosa looming, there will certainly be a lot of stories about how much LSU fans detest Nick Saban. But I want more people to know that hate is limited to a loud few, and does not characterize a large proportion of fans.

I know I don't hate the Nicktator. I love the guy. I would be an idiot not to be grateful for what he did for LSU, lifting it to heights it hadn't seen in a near half-century.

 

In addition, I thought the mental approach that Nick Saban taught to his players was the perfect way to approach football: a very literal one-play-at-a-time mentality. That's why it wasn't unusual to see Nick exploding in rage over some third-string defensive lineman's missed assignment in a 40-10 blowout. 

 

For Nick, that play was the most important play right then. But when it was over, it was over. You forgot about it, and moved to the next play.

 

Star-divide

 

In fact, I confess that this is why I thought he would be a huge success in the NFL. I thought professional players would buy into that approach and appropriate it for themselves more readily than college kids, who are more susceptible to emotional response.

 

Saban's approach is cold, analytical, and intense. I think he is a helluva coach.

 

I also love Les Miles.

 

Does he wear his hat perched precariously high on his head? Yes. Does he make funny facial expressions? Absolutely. Does he say things that are at times mystifying to those of us who speak English? Absolution!

 

But the guy can coach. To be sure, he's very different from Saban. Saban is the football equivalent of Al Gore, a wonk who is involved in every minute detail of the team. Les is more of a delegator, a big picture guy.

 

Saban is hard on assistants and underlings, controlling everything they do. Miles tends to let them coach a bit more.

 

When Saban left LSU, there were not many who were involved in the program who were sad to see him go. His dictatorial manner had alienated some players, but also the administrators and others who manage the mechanics of a large football program.

 

People like Les. He's easier to be around. He spurned (or was rejected) his alma mater for LSU.

 

He's a little crazy. I think most fans, if they were honest, would admit that they wish their coach would run a fake field goal like LSU did against South Carolina in 2007. Les at times coaches like I play video games—balls out.

 

His teams play fast and loose—sometimes too loose. But always fun to watch. And he does this other thing that I like: win. He's won at a rate unequaled by any coach over the same amount of years.

 

Yes, I know the Saban's players critique, but look at Saban's numbers with Saban's players. Very comparable to those of Les.

 

So you know what? I love the guy, and I love Saban. And I look at Bama and what Saban has done with that team, and I think it's great. I wish him success personally, though of course I hope Bama loses to LSU every year. But I hoped that when Ray Perkins was the coach, and when Mike Shula was the coach, and when Bear Bryant was the coach. It has nothing to do with Nick.

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Not meant as a negative...

Sorry, I really didn’t mean that as a negative…Saban has never claimed to invent the I-Formation…one other thing: in the third to last paragraph, it should say that Les has “won at a rate unequaled by any coach at LSU over the same amount of years.”

by froberts on Nov 2, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Politics aside..

Al Gore is a freakin’ genius.

And great write up froberts.

At the end of the day

by Mikeno on Nov 3, 2009 3:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice write up

As an LSU fan and alum I feel about the same about CNS. It seems to be a sort of pathology that many LSU fans hate him — and they are mainly the loud and annoying kind (the same group that has this inexplicable hatred of USC). CNS made the program elite. He then wanted to move to the NFL. I can’t blame the guy for that. I also can’t blame him for realizing that he truly loved college football, and for wanting to coach at a legendary program that was a sleeping giant. Only an idiot calls CNS a “traitor.”

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by Gregatron on Nov 2, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

actually i don't agree with your assessment of saban's management style

one thing i like about saban’s approach is that he doesn’t micromanage and control his assistants’ every move. he’s much more of a CEO-style head coach, carving our very defined areas for his subordinates to work in and letting them do what they need to do do without complications either from outside or from above.

so while he may indeed be hard on assistants and underlings, it is not true that he controls everything they do. nick saban is not a micromanager. this is a system where every person is given a very specific role and responsibilities and then allowed sufficient leeway to achieve them.

a good example of this is that he never has a clipboard or playsheet in hand on the sidelines. he lets the offensive and defensive coordinator’s handle the play-by-play while he focuses on overall game management.

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by kleph on Nov 2, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Not only is he a micromanager, he’s openly BRAGGED about it.

“I’m the director of football operations here. I make the decisions.”

He never has a clipboard in his hand on gameday because he spent all week crossing every eye and dotting every T on every other clipboard on that sideline. Trust me.

by Billy Gomila on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

there is a vast difference between micromanging and clear decision making...

and the quote you offer doesn’t really make a compelling case for either. he outlines his coaching style in much more detail in his book which is as agonizing to read as you might expect.

what is most likely is that saban’s influence is most direct at the start of the week when the gameplan for the upcoming contest is finalized. once the decision is made there, it is up to the individual coaches to do their specific role. in such a situation, being the decision maker doesn’t necessarily mean he’s making every decision.

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by kleph on Nov 3, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh it's definitely more during the week than on Saturday

But it is over EVERYTHING. Trust me. He practically tells coaches what coffee to drink.

As for his book, please. I’ve covered the guy, spoken with players, coaches, secretaries, what have you.

by Billy Gomila on Nov 3, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

trust an anonymous person on the internet who claims to have reams of inside info...

but doesn’t even post an email address to allow the most basic verification of their claims? sure, why not? how about you post all the juicy details on a message board or something so it gets a lot of the type of attention it warrants.

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by kleph on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He is a control freak

In ways people couldn’t begin to imagine. But he’s a successful one, and that’s ultimately all that matters.

by Billy Gomila on Nov 3, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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