Weekend Open Thread Part II
by cocknfire on Nov 14, 2009 7:00 PM EST
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PrintAuburn Tigers at Georgia Bulldogs, Nov 14, 2009 7:00 PM EST
The remaining games:
No. 2 Alabama at Mississippi State, 7 p.m. ET, ESPN
Auburn at Georgia, 7 p.m. ET, ESPN2 / ESPN360
Louisiana Tech at No. 9 LSU, 7 p.m. ET, ESPNU
Troy at Arkansas, 7:30 p.m. ET, CSS / ESPN360
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Let's get that bowl
wooo red and silver!
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions
I really like this color combo
I think we should do it more often
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions
It’s really sad that the Blackout is synonymous with Bama and not AU. We really should have put them away after that game
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hats off to South Carolina – your guys played brilliantly until the wheels started to come loose after the somewhat freakish Trattou pick. If the Cocks can play that way consistently, they’re going to be a real pain in the hind-quarters next year for everyone they meet.
Stat of the game – a combined 0/13 on third downs in the second half until that last, fairly meaningless, one for UF.
I'm excited about next year
But every time they give me a reason to think there could still be something special this year, the old South Carolina emerges.
At least we still have the opportunity to defeat Clemson
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Is it a cliche to say that consistency is a product of experience? Because it is – your guys have real serious talent right now, and Spurrier seems to have re-discovered his mojo, but too many of your key players just haven’t been there before enough times.
Garcia really impressed me – much more mobile in the first half than I had anticipated, and his fourth down conversion was masterful. He started to come apart after the Trattou pick, but Florida’s defence specialises in that – once you make your first mistake, they never let up. (The difference between this year and last is that the O hasn’t held up its end of the bargain so well – it isn’t putting away opportunities when given by the D, and it isn’t knocking in the early scores that make teams a little edgy and give the D a chance to tee off.)
I was also impressed – dismayed as well, of course – with how often your guys were getting penetration into the backfield and blowing up running plays. The sack numbers won’t reflect the kind of pressure SoCar generated.
I don't think it's a cliche if for no other reason than it's true
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Mississippi State snaps the ball early on fourth down
That one’s already going in the wrong direction for the underdog
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Moving with ease
Looking familiar.
Zone being picked apart, per usual
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions
Auburn 7, Georgia 0 -- 11:13 1Q
Nice drive for Todd: 4-of-4, 54 yards, TD
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The best part about watching this from home
Is I can drink my PBRs for cheap with my UGA buddy and not pay NY bar prices. Also, I can throw shit at the TV without getting cuffed
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions
I find that to be an advantage as well
There’s a reason why remotes don’t tend to last long and my current one has tape where the back should be
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I had a feeling that was coming
GT is the only team that can be counted on, and it’s mostly because they’re getting the second year bump under Paul Johnson.
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If UNC could play well at the beginning of the season they'd be a great team
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Well I guess it’s nice to see that respect.. but we really need Boykin to get the ball
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions
False start
Time for some offensive linemen to head for the sideline
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Impact players… drew butler, blair walsh
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions
ummm
i dunno, drew and blair are realllllllly good.
sigh
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, what?
I’m in Asheville for the weekend, and two different channels on the local cable are showing Oklahoma-Texas A&M. Bizarre.
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Do they have two Fox Sports stations?
B/c we have that in Florida, but it’s usually something like the TB Lightning or baseball on one of the channels.
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I'm flipping between AU-Georgia, Alabama-State and Arizona-Cal
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There’s a Fox Sports Net channel, and there’s SportsSouth which is Fox-affiliated like SunSports is down there.
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41 punts.... FORTY ONE
and keeping a 50 yard average.
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions
Man, someone is cussing up a storm on the sidelines
That was solid five to 10 seconds of lost audio
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usually im swearing when UGA runs draws on 3rd and forever
but you cant fault richt when he sees it work against us allllll season long
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions
If anyone cares – I bet you can get tickets real easy! – we’re one result away from Clemson v GaTech for the ACC title (Clemson needs to win their last game, or have BC lose one of their last two.)
It's kind of like Kyle with Auburn -- it can never be mentioned too many times
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It’s too bad for the conference that the title game is still in Tampa this year. Clemson-GT would be an excellent matchup for Charlotte.
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here comes a draw
would be dumb.. but not against us
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions
Oh my
This is bad. Even for Willie Martinez’s defense, this is bad.
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He's already gone
We don’t need another blowout
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
we have to be the most underachieving team in the nation by leaps and bounds
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions
USC (the LA one) would have a serious argument.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
On a national scale, they have to be the pick right now – never has a titan fallen from their supremacy so resoundingly! (Well, actually, probably plenty have… but not recently, dammit!)
FSU, even.
That was a bit slower, I guess.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think you have to hope that at least
Because if this is an accurate reflection on your talent and you have your best players on the field … things could get ugly over the next few years. It’s not like this is a young team.
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Georgia’s point differential has been going south consistently the past three years despite the 10 win years. It was Stafford and Moreno keeping them afloat, and with them gone, there’s nothing to stem the tide.
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Sounds like Tubberville part 2.
Hopefully for UGA fans, it really is all about the coordinators and not the head man.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure
Before last year, it was always Mike Bobo’s fault and now it’s always Willie Martinez’s fault. Richt is a good coach, but he seems to have lost his fastball over the last few years. He needs to reinvent himself and fast.
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The failure to correct staff problems is the big similarity to Tubbs for me – also reminiscent of the situation at FSU, where the boosters had to buy out Jeffy to get rid of him. (I’m kinda surprised Mickey Andrews left of his own accord… though I wouldn’t be shocked at all if we discovered eventually that it wasn’t so voluntary a retirement as portrayed.)
I'm a staunch optimist
but it’s really hard right now not to say, yeah… this seems about right
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
did you see how far drew butler punted that ball.. man that was a thing of beauty… if we get into fieldgoal range, WATCH OUT cause blair walsh is gonna rock your face off
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions
If it makes you feel better, ESPN named Leigh Tiffin as one of Alabama’s key players.
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yes, yes i feel better
our 5—4 record doesnt seem so bad now
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Young Quaterback?
Chris Todd (Sr.)
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions
It's a little early to criticize the Georgia defense?
They’ve already given up a 21-yard screen and a long TD pass to a man who was open by 5-10 yards on either side.
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not to mention that this is not game 1 of the season
we’ve had plenty of chances to be critical
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think I have my nightmare broadcast team complete
Pam Ward PBP
Bob Davie and Craig James analysts
Holly Rowe sidelien reporter
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Am I the only one watching Bama-Miss St? (Half watching – dinner and correspondence and mucking around with you lot absorb a lot of attention.)
yes
trying to flip back, but always dead action at the same time
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm flipping back and forth
I figure Willie Martinez will allow me to turn more toward Bama-State soon enough
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I'm mainly watching that one.
Once Pitt-ND comes on, that will be my #2. I love watching people lose their jobs. (ok, I only like watching Charlie Weis lose his job)
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
you should keep it on uga/au
ppl are losing jobs left and right
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
If you guys go 5-7, what happens to Richt?
I’m asking because I’m genuinely curious. I’m not sure if the Georgia guys I was talking to earlier this season were whistling past the graveyard or if he would be in trouble then.
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Todd completed his first nine passes before an incompletion
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Dawg Sports
said that Malzahn was the nightmare matchup for Martinez. Looks like they might be right.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
I just thought that Auburn's defense would be almost as generous
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they probably are
how could we know
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
At least they didn't show the interception that ended the game again
That will go down with the Moss block and the Pollack interception as plays that make me nauseous every time they come on
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That one can't be worse than the Cock Block can it?
I mean, even amongst my wild joy and semi-naked running around the block, I felt genuine empathy for SC fans. What a horrendous way to lose.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
Back then we were still looking for growth more than execution. I know that we’re basically back to rebuilding and Spurrier says we’re building the program the “right” way this time around, but I’d still like to see progress. Tonight would have been nice.
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A win against a number 1 team
is usually “nice”, but rare no matter where your program sits. They played well
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I see.
I thought SC played well. Certainly better than the past two years. I know that’s not what you’re looking for, but it’s one way to measure “progress.”
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
It couldn't have been worse than last year
Unless Florida had brought heavy machinery and literally bulldozed the stadium.
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I know it's a tradition and I want to see it when I finally get to Athens at some point
But that crypt is kind of creepy.
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Creepiest place in the world? (That I’ve seen in person, that is.) The ossuary at Verdun. You can’t sleep for a week after. Gah.
Good choice.
I was going to say Miami, but I think yours beats it by a nose. My best friend went to Dachau (or Auschwitz, I can’t remember) and he still brings up how haunting it was (he went 7 years ago).
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
I saw Auschwitz quite a few years ago… that’s definitely another one that stays with you. The room of shoes is just ghastly.
Just seeing the shoes at the Holocaust museum was haunting
I can’t imagine actually seeing them at a concentration camp.
I would appreciate seeing one at some point in my life. I don’t want to say I “want” to see one. But yeah …
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It's an important experience.
As someone who has heard family members tell first hand accounts of trying to escape the Holocaust, I agree with you. Too many people have lost or never had an appreciation of just how awful it really was.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
It’s … an experience. There’s certainly something to be said for witnessing the scene of a really horrific event afterward – nothing like being there to really bring the reality of history home. (I’m a once and future history guy, you understand.)
The same is true of the scenes of non-horrific events, too – I’ve always found that walking the ground of a battle, or getting a first-hand look at an important harbour or what have you, really deepens my understanding.
Agreed
I’m a history minor and always loved the stuff, so it’s big whenever I get to see one of the places I’ve read about. I love Charleston as a place where you can see some less heavy history. (I don’t believe there were ever any casualties at Ft. Sumter, so it’s more an interesting site than a somber one.)
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hmm
so when idiot fans (like myself) say throw it to green 40 times a game.. are they that crazy?
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions
Nope.
I’m a firm believer in riding horses until the other team makes you go somewhere else. Too many coaches use their best players as decoys rather than actual weapons (see: Moody, Emmanuel).
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Except players have to be in the game to be decoys
I’m not sure Moody counts.
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You're cuttin' deep.
I’m not gonna lie, it stings a little bit.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
He’s been getting more action the last few games. Still less than one might hope.
Anyhow, I’m with the Catfish – if you’ve got a great player, use him until the other team stops him. Then use him as a decoy (see Tebow, Tim, short yardage conversions.)
in typical bobo fashion
he uses them until they get rolling, then sits them for 2 consecutive series… see all running backs this season, and rennie on impt plays
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
And Auburn's defense makes a cameo appearance
Cox to a wide open Troupe for a TD and the Tigers secondary is once again acting like all WRs have leprosy
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Auburn 14, Georgia 7 -- 13:14 2Q
A.J. Green headed to the locker room.
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Let's set the over-under for punts in AU-Georgia
I like two
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AU going for it on fourth.
2 might be a little high.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I wasn’t sure there would be another in the entire game
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but drew butler
wasnt someone saying ride your horse till she bucks ya? according to ESPN, drew butler is one of our horses
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, the crafty QB punt by the Tigers
The one that everyone in the stadium knew was coming based on the way they lined up
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There are upscale restaurants in Starkville, Miss.
Who knew
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Judging by the attire...
I think the term “up scale” means something different there than it does elsewhere.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
can i get a replay?
oh im sure ill see it on the nets and youtubes this week with uga fans bitching how it changed the game and made us lose
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Army defeated VMI by 5
I’m trying to decide if that should make Vanderbilt feel better or worse about itself
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He wouldn’t be the first guy to have a lousy rep and turn it into something better – Carroll was a bust in the pros, Belicheck was a disaster in Cleveland etc.
I hate to say it
But could the Big East get two teams into the BCS this year?
SEC = Alabama, Florida
Big Ten = Ohio State, Iowa
Big XII = Texas
ACC = Clemson or Georgia Tech, problably not both
Pac-10 = Stanford and/or Oregon
Mid-major = TCU
Big East = Cincinnati
So does Pitt get a berth ahead of the Clemson/Georgia Tech loser or the runner-up in the Pac-10?
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Maybe – I think there’s a chance that if BSU and TCU finish undefeated, that both will get invites… the media and political pressure will be immense. With the SEC pretty much guaranteed an at-large if Bama takes care of MSU (realistically, the SECCG would be 11-2 at worst, both Bama and Florida having total weenies up next), that would leave one spot for the Big Ten, ACC, Pac-10 and Big East to fight over.
I don’t see Pitt as an at-large candidate, however – they get in automatically or not at all. A one-loss runner-up Cincy, now… they’d be in the hunt.
zone
zone zone zone zone = first down first down first down
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions
The sliding catch by Auburn's Mario Fannin
We’ll call it the Andruw Jones Catch
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Your arm is not to supposed to move the way Adams' arm moved on that play
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Near-miss on the best play in football – a defensive lineman batting a ball in the backfield, catching it, and rumbling however many yards for the TD. Unfortunately, the Miss St guy only got to the batting stage…
For as much as UGA is getting dommed
I’m really happy we’re ‘only down 7’. I mean, we’re a stop or a big play away from changing the whole outlook of this game, and momentum would obviously follow. This is a huuuuge series, much like the FLA/SC game where FLA missed that FG and then SC went and scored to put it at 17/14
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions
Todd's throwing motion on that interception is positively Cox-esque
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Willie Martinez: 'I've got one more week on the job! Yipee!'
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Joe Cox
5th year senior. Making true Freshman decisions since August
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions
not a fan of the fans booing.. no matter what happens.. you know recruits are here
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions
Louisiana Tech just took the lead against LSU!
LT 13 – LSU 10
A Tebow-esque jump pass for TD to end the half. Wow.
LSU needs to accentuate its capability to implement an offensive position
That’s what Les would say
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so what will georgia do here
run run run, total of 8 yards, punt
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions
I keep thinking back to that piece Dr. Saturday (then SMQ) did on the potential fall of Southern Cal
And how all of us — self included — thought it would never be quite as bad as Miami. And now …
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I think the Doc was saying
It would be the best thing for the Pac 10 if USC fell from grace. I kinda agree
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's a one year thing.
Barkley is the real deal. They still pull incredible talent, and that will eventually shine through. FWIW, they don’t dominate recruiting like they once did, and people have been slow to catch on to that. They’re still recruiting monsters, but there was a time a couple years ago when they would literally point at a player and they had him instantly. For evidence, Ronald Powell, who is 50/50 right now between UF and USC. In years past, we would never have a chance at a 5 star Cali kid, now we do.
The Pac 10 is also improving as a whole.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
See, that's what we all said about Miami in the final years
They still had the talent and the great coaching.
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I see your point
but I’m not ready to make the Carrol = Coker leap yet.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
PRYOR COMPLETED 82 PERCENT OF HIS PASSES HE'S SO GREAT OHIO STATE IS AWESOME TRESSEL IS A LEADER OF MEN
(Pryor only threw for 93 yards on the day)
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I would love to see Oregon - Ohio State.
The contrast in styles and philosophies would be awesome, and hilarious.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
You know, you would think LSU would have come up with a way to defense the jump pass by now
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Is it just me
Or does Brent Musberger sound a little bit more, um, loose tonight than usual?
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Must have been one of those special Holiday brews.
Some of them are quite strong.
by Giant Catfish on Nov 14, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Louisiana Tech HC is also the AD.
That’s one way to ensure job security. A self-employed football coach….genius!
I love how
Bobo is sticking with the run. By now he would have turned off it after success all drive
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions
that doesn't even make sense
could it be that me and my boy were doing beam shots for all of halftime
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
boooooring
113 years of hate is going on on the deuce
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
we all know this UGA game
is going down to the final possession. but damn it feels nice to be up and have some momentum.
I’m on top of the world*
*could be that beam
by knowshon loves legos on Nov 14, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Definitely a one-horse race, unlike last season. Mixed blessing for the MWC, which needs quality depth in order to make its case as a conference worthy of an auto bid and serious title consideration.
Except the auto-bid is largely dependent on the ranking of your champion
So having one dominant team helps in a way
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Auburn 17, Georgia 17 -- 2:08 3Q
Bounces against the upright and goes good
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It would certainly seem so
Late heroics look quite unlikely
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Tonight's question:
Does TCU have an argument for the top 2?
Honestly, looking at their resume, they may have an argument for #1.
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 14, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions
The MWC has some godawful teams – TCU’s computer rating is very strong at the moment, but they finish with 4-5 Wyoming and 0-10 New Mexico, which is going to blow their SOS to hell. Texas also faces some SOS difficulties down the stretch – even the Big 12 title game might not help them much. On the other hand, UF and Bama get each other, which offsets their upcoming weenies; Cincy has Pitt to offset Illinois. So if those teams all keep winning, I doubt TCU will make up any ground in the computers, which is where they would have to do it.
I think it's looking more and more like they do
They’ll be there after the SEC Championship Game. The question is whether they’ll be No. 2 or No. 3
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Look at the schedules – if TCU doesn’t jump an undefeated Bama/UF/Texas this week, which is very unlikely – they won’t the rest of the way, not with two absolute weenies left to play for them. And they won’t jump an undefeated Cincy in the computers, not when the Bearcats would have a juicy win over a Pitt team currently very well-liked by the algorithms.
Practically, you're right
I’m talking about on principle, which I know is a dangerous proposition when discussing the BCS. TCU has done what Boise should have done to all of its opponents and the Frogs have annihilated two BCS-caliber MWC foes and defeated two actual BCS teams, including a good Clemson team.
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Agreed
Of course it won’t happen without an upset. But I’d like to see them get their shot. I’d love to see them jump Texas and listen to the ’Horns whine for the second straight year.
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 14, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Points coming fast and furious
Auburn 24, Georgia 24 — 12:30 4Q
Alabama 31, Mississippi State 3 — 6:15 4Q
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Unless I'm mistaken, Cal has built its 18-16 lead over Zona without the benefit of a TD
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You are correct
For some reason I thought it was Zona that had done that
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Man, the ESPN2 crew is lobbying hard for Willie Martinez tonight
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McCalebb pitched the ball to himself in the middle of the run
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