Weekend Open Thread // 11.15.08
South Carolina Gamecocks @ Florida Gators
It's not the greatest slate in the world, but it's still SEC football, so have at it in the comments below. We'll be around from time to time, if I'm not gouging my ears out as Gary Danielson finds someway to talk about how MATTHEW STAFFORD IS THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK EVERER SO I HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT HIM EVEN IF HIS GREATNESS ISN'T ACTUALLY IN THIS GAME!!!! ((Insert awkward Danielson joke.))
Georgia at Auburn, 12:30 p.m. ET, Raycom/Three Daves
Louisiana-Monroe at Mississippi, 2 p.m. ET, No TV
South Carolina at Florida, 3:30 p.m. ET, CBS
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Vanderbilt at Kentucky, 8 p.m. ET, ESPN2
Troy at LSU, 8 p.m. ET, No TV
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Georgia wins the early game, 17-13 over Auburn
They did, after all, have the road-field advantage.
Mississippi up 52-0 on Louisiana-Monroe.
Florida grabs the 7-0 lead on a pick-six.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:07 PM EST
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Another interception, a Harvin run and it's 14-0 Florida
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:14 PM EST
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South Carolina imploding
A special-teams mistake (a bad throwback) puts them down 21-0
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:17 PM EST
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Replay puts it at one-foot line
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:19 PM EST
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Urgh
That was bad. That was really, really bad. But it gets back at what I’ve been thinking about UF the last few games – they’re not just taking advantage of mistakes, they’re manufacturing mistakes.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 4:19 PM EST
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I don't think that was manufactured by Florida
I think it was manfactured by Spurrier getting antsy
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:20 PM EST
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Well, Florida had somebody covering the throwback guy the whole time. Not everybody does that, but the Gators stayed at home and were able to recover.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 4:22 PM EST
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It was still a good play by Florida, no doubt
But that’s a dumb idea by South Carolina this early in the game.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:24 PM EST
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Sort of like Georgia’s onside kick against UF.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 4:26 PM EST
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That's my point
Dumb ideas against UF are becoming a trend.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 4:27 PM EST
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I get what you're saying
Though Spurrier has a history of doing these sorts of things against teams that are better than South Carolina.
I would like to see a team, though, try to go through an entire game without doing that against Florida. I suppose it is Florida’s reputation that’s causing their opponents to do that, but I have a hard time giving Florida credit for the idiocy of other coaches.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:29 PM EST
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I fear
you’ll get your wish with Bama. Saban’s exactly the kind of coach who won’t have a fit of idiocy. (Though I would have sworn that Tressel wouldn’t do anything foolish in 2006, and he did with the 4th-and-short call.)
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Nov 15, 2008 4:36 PM EST
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Some mistakes
are manufactured by physical pressure – blitzes, punt blocks etc. But when teams routinely melt down against UF – and you can’t call Stafford’s second-half performance anything else – that looks like psychological pressure, as one mistake starts a cascade of errors that wrecks the game in ten minutes.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM EST
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That's official
20-0, pending XP
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:21 PM EST
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21-0
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Nov 15, 2008 4:21 PM EST
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…and the Florida offense has about nothing to do with it. The South Carolina D has had two bad plays the whole quarter, but yet thanks to the rest of the team’s generosity it’s a 21-0 hole.
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Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM EST
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Which, in a way, is even more frustrating
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:24 PM EST
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Norwood picks up a gift fumble by Florida and returns it to midfield
South Carolina mental mistake pending
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:36 PM EST
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Ole Miss up 59-0 on ULM, Warhawks in red zone, early 4Q
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:36 PM EST
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Points off turnover: Florida 21, South Carolina 0
Score: Florida 21, South Carolina 0
Gamecocks are playing scared, I have to admit
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:38 PM EST
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Your defence
really does look very good – probably the best outfit I’ve seen so far.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 4:40 PM EST
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Yeah
Unfortunately, they have to play with Ray Rychleski and Chris Smelley
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:42 PM EST
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This might sound like a homer complaint
But I have a real problem with announcers that plead for bad officiating on one call and seem to delight in bad officiating on another call. If they wanted to say, “That would be a ticky-tacky PI to call,” or something like that. That’s not what Danielson and Lundquist are doing.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:48 PM EST
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Danielson gushes over whoever is in the lead, and Verne is just along for the ride. It’s a pretty typical CBS telecast so far.
I can’t blame them for wishing James Smith got the touchdown though. He’s a former walk-on, 5th year senior long snapper who never gets any notoriety. Announcers always root for guys like that. And you knew Florida would punch it in eventually anyway; it’s not like they’ve got JaMarcus Russel playing quarterback or anything.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 4:53 PM EST
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I know, I know
But I don’t like rooting for bad officiating. If they say the same thing about S.C., I’ll last them then as well.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:54 PM EST
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*blast them then as well
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:55 PM EST
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All true – but OPI is so lethal to a drive you’ll hardly ever see it called unless it’s really blatant. (Like grounding.)
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 4:57 PM EST
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That's the longest play South Carolina has had all day
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:49 PM EST
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Better pass protection so far this drive.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 4:51 PM EST
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Holding will help that
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:53 PM EST
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Quite, old chap
But before that they looked like ‘good UGA’ – lots of protection, good downfield throws to big, athletic receivers.
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Nov 15, 2008 4:55 PM EST
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Ole Miss goes final, 59-0 over ULM
Prepare for the bragging, Bama fans
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:55 PM EST
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Oregon St up 3 over Cal, by the way
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 4:58 PM EST
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Mistackles against Florida = death
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:01 PM EST
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You know, after a successful pass
Most QBs get to stay in
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:03 PM EST
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Fortunate for SC – besides the awfulness of losing another one, they picked up about three more yards.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:05 PM EST
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You had to get something out of that drive
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:07 PM EST
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No Jarvis Moss
Florida 28, South Carolina 3 after the Succop FG
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:07 PM EST
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Bobby Bowden still coaching at Florida St?
I thought it was Jimbo Fisher. Officially, I guess, it is still Bowden …
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:12 PM EST
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Why did Verne say that was first down?!?
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:13 PM EST
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That's an interesting call
You run all the possible time of the clock but give your kicker about 1.5 yards less to maneuver
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:16 PM EST
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What I want to know is
When did Florida get 212 yards of offense? It feels like they have about 2/3 that amount.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 5:18 PM EST
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The Thompson TD is probably most of that – but the drive that ended in the second fumble picked up decent yardage too.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:36 PM EST
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Don't forget the one yard off the called-back special teams TD ;)
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:38 PM EST
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Halftime
- Florida is very very good, but South Carolina is helping them with mental mistakes. That doesn’t take away from the Gators — they’re an outstanding team — but you can’t help them if you’re South Carolina.
- The QB shuffle is an abject failure. Spurrier is not at Florida, he doesn’t have Johnson and Palmer and both of these quarterbacks are obviously uncomfortable with it. Spurrier might be right that neither QB is doing very well, but there’s a legitimate chicken-egg question to be asked there.
- This game isn’t over, but it’s close. South Carolina has given no indication that they can score 25 points next half, or that they can keep their poise enough to prevent another point-producing mental mistake.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:21 PM EST
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Agreed
- South Carolina is doing better on defence than anyone since first half UGA – and before that, maybe first half Arky. But the offence has been so horrific it hasn’t really mattered. (It has mattered some, though; if the D were playing as poorly as the O, this would look like the Kentucky or Vandy games. This is much more like the UGA game – UF’s better, but the score exaggerates the difference.)
- Garcia looks lost; Smelley in max protect is the best thing going right now.
- Even if the USC defence holds UF down (which is certainly possible), USC needs either vast improvement on offence or lots of turnovers, or both. Of course, I’m a pessimist… no game is ever over as long as the other guy has a mathematical chance of catching up.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:33 PM EST
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They've got some weird freaking trophies in the Big Ten
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:23 PM EST
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I wonder if Succop still has nightmares about Jarvis Moss
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:35 PM EST
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The one thing South Carolina couldn't afford to have happen
Just happened
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:40 PM EST
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Have to say
I like Demps, Rainey, Moody, and the rest, but there still is only one Percy Harvin.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 5:41 PM EST
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I've always been more impressed by him than Tebow, to be completely honest
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:42 PM EST
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Lightning usually is more impressive than thunder in football.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 5:43 PM EST
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Perhaps "more afraid of" would be a better way to put that
Tebow’s pretty impressive
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:43 PM EST
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Yeah
it’s pretty astounding, but I think Harvin is still our best runner and receiver. No-one else does everything.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:43 PM EST
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BREAKING NEWS: Smelley stays in
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:45 PM EST
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Smelley staying in is clear evidence that Spurrier thinks he needs to throw
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:46 PM EST
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Florida can be had if you sit back with lots of blockers and pick your spots in the 5-15 yard range.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:47 PM EST
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Which is pretty much what Smelley is doing right now
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:48 PM EST
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And that’s what ‘good Stafford’ did. Can Ponder (or whoever) or Wilson do it? Million dollar questions right there.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:50 PM EST
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That's all JPW can do
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:51 PM EST
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To be honest, I really expect to see UF’s defence try the same thing against Bama as they did against UGA – throw an extra body into the box for pressure and run-stuffing, and force Wilson to bear the weight.
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Nov 15, 2008 5:52 PM EST
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Jenkins is special for a true freshman
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Nov 15, 2008 5:49 PM EST
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And so continues Mission: Reclaim South Carolina's Dignity
Succop FG, 35-6 Florida
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:51 PM EST
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Nice coverage on kickoffs from USC – James has been held in check so far.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 5:54 PM EST
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Wow
That might be the hardest hit South Carolina’s dealt out this year
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:56 PM EST
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That looked like an Eric Berry hit – ouch. Gotta hold your blocks on those plays, kids.
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Nov 15, 2008 5:57 PM EST
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Thousands of people catch laryngitis every day
Why can’t Danielson be one of them?
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:58 PM EST
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Love how 95 clapped for himself right there
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 5:59 PM EST
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They're like pinballs
Bounce off a tackle or two, head for the end zone
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:00 PM EST
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Just watched the play several times
Three Gamecock defenders were prepared to take him down if he got through the hole. Not a one went around the back, and that’s where Demps came from. Suddenly, all three were out of position, and a single block sprung him.
It’s the details that will get you.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:03 PM EST
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Tebow with the block, Demps with the score. 41-6, PAT pending.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:00 PM EST
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This is such an incredible team
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team as good as Florida. This is just — wow.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:07 PM EST
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So close… the last guy to miss slowed him down just enough.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 6:09 PM EST
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Norwood's played a whale of a game
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:12 PM EST
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Tebow seems to be waiting just an instant too long in the pocket on some of his throws. He’s done it before too…
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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That might be the first time I've heard an analyst admit he isn't watching the game
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:15 PM EST
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Now I know what Kentucky felt like
And Georgia. And LSU. And …
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:16 PM EST
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That's the first time you'll ever hear Tebow called a "queen"
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:17 PM EST
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So
who would you pick in a three-way tie in the Big 12 South?
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 6:23 PM EST
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I don't think it will happen
I still believe TT will beat Oklahoma
But I think you have to go with Texas, barring an Oklahoma blowout of TT. Oklahoma has absolutely no defense (things I thought I’d never say), and Texas’ at least appears to have a pulse.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:24 PM EST
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I take that back ... OU is actually first in total D in the Big XII
They’re still not very good
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Nov 15, 2008 6:27 PM EST
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If Okie wins legitimately – ie, without being helped by blown calls etc – then I think I’d give the Sooners the slight edge; they should have the best non-common opponents of the three. But this could be really close.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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Don't look now
But Wisconsin just tied Minnesota
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:23 PM EST
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Another TD
Florida up 49-6
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:27 PM EST
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Wow
They’re betting in the booth that Verne can’t make it through the game recap without an error. To his credit, he makes it, but what does that say about the CBS team?
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Nov 15, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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This is the guy who said it was first down shortly after calling the first down play ...
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:31 PM EST
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Sorry, Bama and Texas Tech fans
Florida’s No. 1 by any measure you use
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:32 PM EST
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Oooh – does this mean another week of Bama fans (and UGA fans too) sniping at your blogpoll ballot? ‘Cause that’s always a barrel of kittens.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:34 PM EST
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Appears so
But I just can’t justify putting them anywhere else right now…
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Nov 15, 2008 6:35 PM EST
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Thank you, Urban for pulling Tebow
But if you really wanted to be polite, you could sit down Demps, Rainey, Harvin and teh starting offensive line
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:36 PM EST
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A telling stat
South Carolina is 0-12 on third down conversions.
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 6:37 PM EST
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Offense or defense?
Oh, never mind. I doubt South Carolina’s forced Florida into 12 third-down situations
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Nov 15, 2008 6:38 PM EST
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Prior to this current drive, Florida is 5 of 10 on third down.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:39 PM EST
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That's surprising to me
Florida’s had five unsuccessful third down plays?
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:41 PM EST
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USC’s defence has given up some big plays, but they’ve held pretty well on short yardage.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:42 PM EST
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More on this in TFD later tonight
But I think Tebow’s the front-runner. Harrell, Crabtree, McCoy and Bradford will split the Big XII vote
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:37 PM EST
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I guess you can forgive a sub-par punting game when it's not utilized very much
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Nov 15, 2008 6:40 PM EST
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That was a rare mistake – the punting game is usually quite good, but that one took a funny bounce. If not for the personal foul, it would have been almost equivalent net to a touchback.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:44 PM EST
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Over on ABC
Maryland kicks on through, it’s 17-15 Terps over UNC with about 1:40 to go.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:42 PM EST
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Which just proves the first maxim of ACC football
Whichever result can cause the most chaos will be the outcome of a given game
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 6:43 PM EST
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Observe – Wake loses. And FSU, minus five receivers, could have real trouble on their hands tonight.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:45 PM EST
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I know Gamecocks hate Clemson, but is there any sense of rivalry to any degree with UNC?
by Year2 on
Nov 15, 2008 6:45 PM EST
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Not really
Spurrier would like to start one, and I know I for one really want to beat them whenever we play them.
But the games are so rare that particularly for those of us who became fans in the SEC era, there’s no real special feelings for UNC that I’ve ever picked up.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:47 PM EST
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I think I remember a conflict earlier this year as to which school got to call itself just “Carolina,” but that may just have been the local Charlotte radio folks manufacturing controversy to rile up all the Heels in town.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:48 PM EST
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Probably had to do with the USC/USC conflict
That said, we are Carolina to everyone in South Carolina. They are Carolina to everyone else. It’s a bit of a controversy, but not enough to translate onto the field.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:50 PM EST
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Going to see a lot more Will Hill in years to come.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:47 PM EST
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That INT by Will Hill was Reggie Nelsonesque in that he came from nowhere to pick it.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:47 PM EST
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Ah, Reggie
He ballhawked like Black and hit like Wright… and he rocked the dreads, too. Splendid stuff.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:48 PM EST
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I think he anticipated the throw better than the WR
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Nov 15, 2008 6:48 PM EST
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I didn't know it was anatomically possible to move your legs in that many different directions
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Nov 15, 2008 6:51 PM EST
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Oh Verne
He’s more concerned over getting to finish his story about Dandy Don Meredith than calling the game.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:51 PM EST
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This is exactly what Madden et al sound like when games are getting out of hand…
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Nov 15, 2008 6:52 PM EST
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Well, there’s always Mike Patrick asking what’s up with Britney.
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That's just Mike Patrick
He has trouble concentrating on things like games.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:53 PM EST
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He was going to get that story out no matter how long it took. That’s determination, people.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:56 PM EST
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Another TD
Florida 56, South Carolina 6
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Nov 15, 2008 6:51 PM EST
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For those of you wondering
The “top ranked defense statistically in the SEC” has given up 484 yards
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And I think that has as much or more to do with Fla than with S.C.
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Who was Sexton throwing to? I saw four red shirts closer than any white.
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Can Tim Brando get through one clip without advocating for a playoff?
Whatever you might think of the argument about the BCS, the endless lobbying gets tiring.
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I do believe Garcia completed that pass
To one of the ball boys
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Oregon State finishes the game
34-21 over Cal with 31 second left
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Nov 15, 2008 6:57 PM EST
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The Beaver Dream is alive
Oregon State gets a pick-6 with 0:31 to go to seal the win. Was 27-21, now is 34-21.
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A win at Arizona and in the Civil War gives them a Rose Bowl bid
And could leave the other USC out of the BCS
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Nov 15, 2008 6:58 PM EST
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Ain't gonna happen
I mean, USC getting left out.
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Nov 15, 2008 6:59 PM EST
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Yeah, but a man can dream
I’d still like to see Utah and Boise State make it in and see the Trojans and Ohio State locked out.
Won’t happen, but still nice to think about
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Nov 15, 2008 7:00 PM EST
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If Tech beats OU and goes to the title game and Texas wins out, then the Longhorns get an auto-bid as being a non-conference champion in the top 4 of the BCS poll.
The rotation this year is Fiesta-Sugar-Orange. The Fiesta will take Texas to replace the departed Raiders, and then they get first pick at the at-larges. Almost certainly they’ll take USC for a rematch of the 2005 BCSCG. Sound good to anyone?
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Nov 15, 2008 7:03 PM EST
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I'm not sure
That could turn into a blowout if Texas gets a few breaks early (like, say, Florida in this game). Southern Cal doesn’t have a great offense this year.
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Nov 15, 2008 7:05 PM EST
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But USC has a hellacious defense. I think it would be a great contrast in styles.
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Nov 15, 2008 7:09 PM EST
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That's what I meant by the early breaks
I’m agreed … if this game gets into the third quarter still close, I think it’s a tough game.
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Nov 15, 2008 7:09 PM EST
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"This game" = Texas vs. USC
I don’t think anything mattered in Florida vs. South Carolina
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Nov 15, 2008 7:10 PM EST
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Does USC’s offence strike anyone else as UGA-esque. They’ve got a ton of talent, but too often it just quite click the way you expect.
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Nov 15, 2008 7:23 PM EST
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I think the talent is oversold
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Nov 15, 2008 7:37 PM EST
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And that’s the difference between Moody and Moore – when Moody gets into the open field, dude can book. (Also, he hangs on to the damn ball.)
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If Southern Cal plays in the national championship game
There should be a Congressional investigation
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Nov 15, 2008 7:00 PM EST
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Don't look now, but Stanford is on the Southern Cal 11 in a scoreless game
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Nov 15, 2008 7:12 PM EST
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Southern Cal 4
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Nov 15, 2008 7:12 PM EST
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Stanford TD
Lead 7-0 with 11:04 in 1Q
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Nov 15, 2008 7:13 PM EST
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Next SEC game is Alabama-Miss St, followed in short order by Kentucky-Vanderbilt
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Nov 15, 2008 7:15 PM EST
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Stanford FG puts them up 10-3
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Nov 15, 2008 7:39 PM EST
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Alabama blocks a Mississippi State punt for a safety
2-0
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Nov 15, 2008 7:55 PM EST
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Oh dear
Is it going to be that kind of game?
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Nov 15, 2008 7:56 PM EST
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I doubt it
I don’t see Mississippi State scoring three points against Alabama
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Free kick off the tee
And it results in a touchback. I’ve always wondered why more teams don’t do that.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 7:59 PM EST
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JPW should never, ever run with the ball
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Um, yeah. He’s a pocket passer if I ever saw one.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:00 PM EST
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You see him slide when he could have run another three yards and then slid?
It was a thing of ugliness.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:02 PM EST
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Going from Tebow to Wilson is like stepping back in time six or seven decades.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:04 PM EST
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Southern Cal tied 10-10 with Stanford now, btw
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Nov 15, 2008 8:00 PM EST
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Stanford down to the Southern Cal 1
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Stanford TD, lead Southern Cal 17-10 with 4:29 left in 2Q
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Nov 15, 2008 8:06 PM EST
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Wow. Mississippi State is a train wreck this year
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Nov 15, 2008 8:07 PM EST
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Which is why I’m going to let Cobb and Nickson bear me away to the land of competent rushing QBs.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:10 PM EST
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I'm going to be flipping back and forth. Wanted to see the beginning of Alabama-MSU
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Nov 15, 2008 8:11 PM EST
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I suppose I should pay some attention to Bama – get a little advanced scouting in. But how much will the MSU or Auburn games really tell me?
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Nov 15, 2008 8:12 PM EST
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Not sure
It’s now 5-0. I take back what I said earlier — this could be one of those games
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Nov 15, 2008 8:14 PM EST
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Southern Cal tied now, btw, 17-17
Could end up being a shootout in Palo Alto
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Nov 15, 2008 8:12 PM EST
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Shouldn't there be quote marks around "offensive coordinator"
With Woody McCorvey
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Nov 15, 2008 8:13 PM EST
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Hey, Nickson -- Tyson Lee can do that
Except he can’t recover it
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Nov 15, 2008 8:14 PM EST
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Southern Cal's D is completely flummoxed
Shades of Oregon State
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Nov 15, 2008 8:15 PM EST
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Moore receiving TD, Vanderbilt up 6-0
XP pending
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 8:18 PM EST
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7-0
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Nov 15, 2008 8:19 PM EST
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Arenas reminds me of what Lou Holtz once said about Syvelle Newton
“When he has the ball, hold your hats, because one of us is about to score.”
This team, he has a modest return and no turnover
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Nov 15, 2008 8:20 PM EST
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Troy up 7-0 on LSU
Shouldn’t last.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:22 PM EST
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Southern Cal and Stanford tied at 17 at the half
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 8:22 PM EST
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What was that pass, JPW? I mean, seriously.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:25 PM EST
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Derek Pegues just forget which state he's in
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Nov 15, 2008 8:26 PM EST
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ESPN: 50-point loss is worst of Spurrier's career
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Nov 15, 2008 8:28 PM EST
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Mississippi State completes a successful forward pass
I’m stunned
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 8:31 PM EST
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Whoa – check out the all black unis on FSU. Definitely a more important game to watch than Bama-MSU. (Unless Bama inexplicably gets a case of the losies.)
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Nov 15, 2008 8:32 PM EST
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NSFMF
Mississippi State TD, 6-0, XP pending
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 8:34 PM EST
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7-0
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Nov 15, 2008 8:34 PM EST
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False start
Second try is blocked, but it’s a dead ball
Longest PAT ever
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Nov 15, 2008 8:36 PM EST
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Stoppage is another false start
Third time’s the charm, 7-0
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 8:36 PM EST
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7-5, that would be ... I'm an idiot
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Nov 15, 2008 8:39 PM EST
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Looks like Mike Patrick might not have to wonder what Britney's up to these days
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Nov 15, 2008 8:41 PM EST
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Scoreboardin'
Vanderbilt 14, Kentucky 0, 1:54 in 1Q
Troy 14, LSU 3, 4:00 in 1Q
Mississippi State 7, Alabama 5, 10:19 in 2Q
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Nov 15, 2008 8:38 PM EST
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The question for Alabama has always been "Can JPW avoid having that game?"
It’s not looking good right now
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Nov 15, 2008 8:44 PM EST
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He’s lucky to be having “that game” against MSU, when it (probably) won’t cost Bama anything more than some indigestion.
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Nov 15, 2008 8:53 PM EST
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Arenas might have give Alabama a spark
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Wilson sneaks for a TD, 11-7 Alabama
XP pending
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Nov 15, 2008 8:56 PM EST
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Always an adventure with Tiffin
But even he can make an XP, 12-7
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Nov 15, 2008 8:56 PM EST
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Kentucky blocks a kick, TD, 14-7
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First offensive TD for Bama against Miss St in four years
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Troy driving inside the red zone again
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Southern Cal fumbles deep in Stanford territory
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Nov 15, 2008 9:01 PM EST
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Troy FG, 17-3 over LSU
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But hey, look on the bright side for LSU – no picks yet. Lee’s improving!
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Nov 15, 2008 9:09 PM EST
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That is one way to look at it, I suppose
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Nov 15, 2008 9:10 PM EST
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BTW, I might use that in the weekend wrap-up if it holds true
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Nov 15, 2008 9:11 PM EST
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With five and a half left in 2Q, Kentucky has 15 total yds
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D.J. Morre picks off Randall Cobb, Vandy on the Kentucky 22
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Weirdest TD you've ever seen, but I think it's legit, Vandy leads 20-7, XP pending
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Nov 15, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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Review also pending
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Both go Vandy's way, 21-7
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Nov 15, 2008 9:16 PM EST
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This time, Vandy says, eligibility is not getting away.
Weird little play there – great determination by the receiver to get across the line.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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We'll see
I’ll believe it when I see it. I want it to happen, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:17 PM EST
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Vandy’s lucky it isn’t the same crew as last week – they’d call it a Kentucky TD.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:16 PM EST
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Troy just went up 24-3
LSU in deep
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Nov 15, 2008 9:17 PM EST
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This would be an epic collapse. Miles will need a fake mustache to get out of the stadium in one piece.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:18 PM EST
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What does that say about Bama
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Nov 15, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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Nothing very good, I don’t think. Though maybe this is just PTSD for LSU kicking in after the UF, UGA and Bama games.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:22 PM EST
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Yeah
Last five weeks:
at Florida
at South Carolina
vs. Georgia
vs. Tulane
vs. Alabama
This was supposed to be a bye, but hurricanes win over football
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Nov 15, 2008 9:25 PM EST
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Southern Cal takes the lead, btw, 24-17 with 2:38 left in 3Q
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Nov 15, 2008 9:18 PM EST
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Versus: SC can get back in NCG this way
Big XII South loses in BXIICG.
Florida wins in SEC CG (I have no idea how that helps, but so they say)
Oregon State loses somewhere.
Not sure that does it, but VERSUS says it does, so that must be true.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:20 PM EST
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UK gets its first first down of the night
On a fake punt
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Nov 15, 2008 9:21 PM EST
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OK – no bright spots left for LSU… Lee gets taken to the house. By Troy.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:25 PM EST
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Jefferson is now in at QB after that pick
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Nov 15, 2008 9:27 PM EST
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I hope LSU athletics has a really good mental health insurance program. Lee’s going to need years of therapy after this season.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:29 PM EST
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LSU fans are worried about that
Does it make him stronger or kill his confidence?
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Nov 15, 2008 9:31 PM EST
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One really awful game might be a character-building experience. But dreadful outings against UF and UGA, capped by a benching against Troy? (And you can toss in a less than splendid performance against Bama, too.) It’ll take one tough cookie to shrug off all that.
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Nov 15, 2008 9:36 PM EST
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Vandy FG, up 24-7 in Lexington with 2 seconds in 2Q
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Arenas PR for TD, 18-7, XP pending for Bama
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Nov 15, 2008 9:35 PM EST
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19-7
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Nov 15, 2008 9:36 PM EST
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USC pulling away from Stanford – no upset there tonight.
(Though much further down the polls, we have Houston hammering Tulsa; and of course LSU doing whatever it’s doing against Troy.)
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Scoreboardin'
Alabama up 22-7 over Mississippi State
Vanderbilt still up 24-7, but UK threatening
Troy up 24-3 on LSU at the half
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Cobb pitches to Dixon on option, TD Kentucky
24-14 Vanderbilt with 10:00 in 3Q
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Nov 15, 2008 10:03 PM EST
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Scoreboardin'
UK has pulled to within seven of Vandy, 24-17 as 3Q wraps up; could history be on hold again?
Alabama is up 25-7 and driving in 4Q.
LSU is down 31-3 but in the red zone with 3:57 left in 3Q
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Nov 15, 2008 10:30 PM EST
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Rushing TD by Hawkins and Vandy is now up 30-17, XP pending, 14:14 left
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Scoreboardin'
Alabama up 32-7 as time winds down
Vandy up 31-17 early in 4Q
LSU trying to come back, down 31-17 against Troy early in 4Q
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Nov 15, 2008 10:48 PM EST
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Indeed, 32-7
Scary there for a while, eh?
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Nov 15, 2008 10:53 PM EST
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well, yes and no...
… it wasn’t as hairy as some of our other games this season but it would be nice to have an offense that could generate points with regularity.
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Nov 15, 2008 10:57 PM EST
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but, dear lord, javier arenas is scary good.
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When he holds onto the ball, it's ridiculous
I said earlier he reminded me of Lou Holtz’s quote about Syvelle Newton: “When he has the ball, hold onto your hats, because one of us is about to score.” Seems like Alabama’s doing most of that scoring right now.
And he passed the “Duece” for PR for TDs, whom I vaguely remember from my childhood as one whale of a kick returner.
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Nov 15, 2008 11:00 PM EST
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croom was NOT HAPPY his kicker knocked it to him...
…and was clearly ripping the special teams coach for it happening.
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Nov 15, 2008 11:01 PM EST
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As long as Woody McCorvey is still gainfully employed
Croom can’t blame any problems with his team on anyone else
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Nov 15, 2008 11:03 PM EST
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Talk about a defence-optional game – Houston 63, Tulsa 30… after 3 quarters.
LSU is clawing back – Jefferson was apparently so dreadful that Lee returned.
FSU a ballsy drive, with a fake punt and then a trick play for the TD. ACC football does have its very occasional moments.
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What does that do for Jefferson's confidence
“You’re worse than the guy who throws pick-sixes like they’re beads at Mardi Gras”
Ah, yes, Tulsa — the “fly in the ointment” for Tim Brandon
//stifles laughter//
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Nov 15, 2008 10:58 PM EST
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Cobb rushing TD puts UK back into this one, 31-23 Vandy with 8:22 left
XP and review pending
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31-24, btw
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And Houston-Tulsa reaches triple figures.
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Wow 70-30
That’s like basketball
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If they manage to win this one, I want Les Miles' lucky unicorn
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unicorns represent purity, not good fortune.
…and typically require a virgin to capture – something in short supply in baton rouge.
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Nov 15, 2008 11:07 PM EST
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Leprechaun, then?
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:08 PM EST
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that would suggest an unholy union of cajun and irish... think about that for a moment.
by kleph on
Nov 15, 2008 11:13 PM EST
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He's got some kind of good luck charm
All those fourth downs, and now Troy punting to the 50
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:14 PM EST
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Where would there be any supply at all in the SEC? Vandy?
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Nov 15, 2008 11:08 PM EST
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First BC throws a pick in the red zone, then FSU marches right down the field… and throws a pick in the end zone. I lurve the ACC.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 11:06 PM EST
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^ ACC season in a nutshell
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:07 PM EST
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LSU just gets the field goal, 31-27
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:09 PM EST
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'bout 8 minutes
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:09 PM EST
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Kentucky driving near midfield, slightly less than 4:30 left
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:10 PM EST
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Cobb to Adams, down to Vanderbilt 40, 3:50 and running
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:11 PM EST
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UK 3 and 5, VU 35
Kentucky takes time out
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:14 PM EST
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Man, after their first drive of the third, Troy’s offence has just disappeared.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 11:15 PM EST
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Talent gap
That’s where it starts to show up, though usually on defense
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:16 PM EST
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Yeah, UF had a few games like that this season – though the Gators were prudent enough not to get into a four TD hole first.
by peachy rex on
Nov 15, 2008 11:17 PM EST
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Bob Davie: South Carolina "limping"
Having won six of their last eight but lost to a team that slaughtered Georgia, LSU and Kentucky, and they’re limping
If you don’t kknow what you’re talking about, shut up.
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:15 PM EST
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Troy fumbles punt, LSU set up at Trojans 21
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:17 PM EST
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UK down to the Vandy 23, 2:30 and running, 4th and 4
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:18 PM EST
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D.J. Moore intercepted, game
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by cocknfire on
Nov 15, 2008 11:19 PM EST
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Two receiving TDs, 2 INTs for D.J. Moore
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Nov 15, 2008 11:20 PM EST
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