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Weekend Open Thread // 11.15.08

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South Carolina Gamecocks @ Florida Gators


It's not the greatest slate in the world, but it's still SEC football, so have at it in the comments below. We'll be around from time to time, if I'm not gouging my ears out as Gary Danielson finds someway to talk about how MATTHEW STAFFORD IS THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK EVERER SO I HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT HIM EVEN IF HIS GREATNESS ISN'T ACTUALLY IN THIS GAME!!!! ((Insert awkward Danielson joke.))

Georgia at Auburn, 12:30 p.m. ET, Raycom/Three Daves
Louisiana-Monroe at Mississippi, 2 p.m. ET, No TV
South Carolina at Florida, 3:30 p.m. ET, CBS
Mississippi State at Alabama, 7:45 p.m. ET, ESPN
Vanderbilt at Kentucky, 8 p.m. ET, ESPN2
Troy at LSU, 8 p.m. ET, No TV

Also, there's some games being played in a sport they call -- and let me make sure I have this spelled right -- "basketball." Not sure what that's all about, but if you think you'd like to blog about this odd sport, drop an e-mail at garnetandblackattack --at-- gmail --dot-- com. 

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Georgia wins the early game, 17-13 over Auburn

They did, after all, have the road-field advantage.

Mississippi up 52-0 on Louisiana-Monroe.

Florida grabs the 7-0 lead on a pick-six.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:07 PM EST   0 recs

South Carolina imploding

A special-teams mistake (a bad throwback) puts them down 21-0

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:17 PM EST   0 recs

Urgh

That was bad. That was really, really bad. But it gets back at what I’ve been thinking about UF the last few games – they’re not just taking advantage of mistakes, they’re manufacturing mistakes.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:19 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I don't think that was manufactured by Florida

I think it was manfactured by Spurrier getting antsy

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:20 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Well, Florida had somebody covering the throwback guy the whole time. Not everybody does that, but the Gators stayed at home and were able to recover.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 4:22 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

It was still a good play by Florida, no doubt

But that’s a dumb idea by South Carolina this early in the game.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:24 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Sort of like Georgia’s onside kick against UF.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 4:26 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

That's my point

Dumb ideas against UF are becoming a trend.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:27 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I get what you're saying

Though Spurrier has a history of doing these sorts of things against teams that are better than South Carolina.

I would like to see a team, though, try to go through an entire game without doing that against Florida. I suppose it is Florida’s reputation that’s causing their opponents to do that, but I have a hard time giving Florida credit for the idiocy of other coaches.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:29 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I fear

you’ll get your wish with Bama. Saban’s exactly the kind of coach who won’t have a fit of idiocy. (Though I would have sworn that Tressel wouldn’t do anything foolish in 2006, and he did with the 4th-and-short call.)

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:36 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Some mistakes

are manufactured by physical pressure – blitzes, punt blocks etc. But when teams routinely melt down against UF – and you can’t call Stafford’s second-half performance anything else – that looks like psychological pressure, as one mistake starts a cascade of errors that wrecks the game in ten minutes.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

That's official

20-0, pending XP

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:21 PM EST   0 recs

21-0

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:21 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

…and the Florida offense has about nothing to do with it. The South Carolina D has had two bad plays the whole quarter, but yet thanks to the rest of the team’s generosity it’s a 21-0 hole.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 4:23 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Norwood picks up a gift fumble by Florida and returns it to midfield

South Carolina mental mistake pending

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:36 PM EST   0 recs

Points off turnover: Florida 21, South Carolina 0

Score: Florida 21, South Carolina 0

Gamecocks are playing scared, I have to admit

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:38 PM EST   0 recs

Your defence

really does look very good – probably the best outfit I’ve seen so far.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:40 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

Unfortunately, they have to play with Ray Rychleski and Chris Smelley

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:42 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

This might sound like a homer complaint

But I have a real problem with announcers that plead for bad officiating on one call and seem to delight in bad officiating on another call. If they wanted to say, “That would be a ticky-tacky PI to call,” or something like that. That’s not what Danielson and Lundquist are doing.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:48 PM EST   0 recs

Danielson gushes over whoever is in the lead, and Verne is just along for the ride. It’s a pretty typical CBS telecast so far.

I can’t blame them for wishing James Smith got the touchdown though. He’s a former walk-on, 5th year senior long snapper who never gets any notoriety. Announcers always root for guys like that. And you knew Florida would punch it in eventually anyway; it’s not like they’ve got JaMarcus Russel playing quarterback or anything.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 4:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I know, I know

But I don’t like rooting for bad officiating. If they say the same thing about S.C., I’ll last them then as well.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

All true – but OPI is so lethal to a drive you’ll hardly ever see it called unless it’s really blatant. (Like grounding.)

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Better pass protection so far this drive.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:51 PM EST   0 recs

Quite, old chap

But before that they looked like ‘good UGA’ – lots of protection, good downfield throws to big, athletic receivers.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 4:55 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Ole Miss goes final, 59-0 over ULM

Prepare for the bragging, Bama fans

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 4:55 PM EST   0 recs

You know, after a successful pass

Most QBs get to stay in

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:03 PM EST   0 recs

Fortunate for SC – besides the awfulness of losing another one, they picked up about three more yards.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:05 PM EST   0 recs

Dang

There goes the shutout…

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 5:07 PM EST   0 recs

No Jarvis Moss

Florida 28, South Carolina 3 after the Succop FG

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:07 PM EST   0 recs

Bobby Bowden still coaching at Florida St?

I thought it was Jimbo Fisher. Officially, I guess, it is still Bowden …

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:12 PM EST   0 recs

That's an interesting call

You run all the possible time of the clock but give your kicker about 1.5 yards less to maneuver

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:16 PM EST   0 recs

What I want to know is

When did Florida get 212 yards of offense? It feels like they have about 2/3 that amount.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 5:18 PM EST   0 recs

The Thompson TD is probably most of that – but the drive that ended in the second fumble picked up decent yardage too.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:36 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Halftime

- Florida is very very good, but South Carolina is helping them with mental mistakes. That doesn’t take away from the Gators — they’re an outstanding team — but you can’t help them if you’re South Carolina.

- The QB shuffle is an abject failure. Spurrier is not at Florida, he doesn’t have Johnson and Palmer and both of these quarterbacks are obviously uncomfortable with it. Spurrier might be right that neither QB is doing very well, but there’s a legitimate chicken-egg question to be asked there.

- This game isn’t over, but it’s close. South Carolina has given no indication that they can score 25 points next half, or that they can keep their poise enough to prevent another point-producing mental mistake.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:21 PM EST   0 recs

Agreed

- South Carolina is doing better on defence than anyone since first half UGA – and before that, maybe first half Arky. But the offence has been so horrific it hasn’t really mattered. (It has mattered some, though; if the D were playing as poorly as the O, this would look like the Kentucky or Vandy games. This is much more like the UGA game – UF’s better, but the score exaggerates the difference.)

- Garcia looks lost; Smelley in max protect is the best thing going right now.

- Even if the USC defence holds UF down (which is certainly possible), USC needs either vast improvement on offence or lots of turnovers, or both. Of course, I’m a pessimist… no game is ever over as long as the other guy has a mathematical chance of catching up.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

OK

now it may just possibly be over.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:40 PM EST   0 recs

Have to say

I like Demps, Rainey, Moody, and the rest, but there still is only one Percy Harvin.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 5:41 PM EST   0 recs

Lightning usually is more impressive than thunder in football.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 5:43 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

it’s pretty astounding, but I think Harvin is still our best runner and receiver. No-one else does everything.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:43 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Florida can be had if you sit back with lots of blockers and pick your spots in the 5-15 yard range.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:47 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

And that’s what ‘good Stafford’ did. Can Ponder (or whoever) or Wilson do it? Million dollar questions right there.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:50 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

To be honest, I really expect to see UF’s defence try the same thing against Bama as they did against UGA – throw an extra body into the box for pressure and run-stuffing, and force Wilson to bear the weight.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Nice coverage on kickoffs from USC – James has been held in check so far.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:54 PM EST   0 recs

Wow

That might be the hardest hit South Carolina’s dealt out this year

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:56 PM EST   0 recs

That looked like an Eric Berry hit – ouch. Gotta hold your blocks on those plays, kids.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Thousands of people catch laryngitis every day

Why can’t Danielson be one of them?

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 5:58 PM EST   0 recs

Great second effort.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 6:00 PM EST   0 recs

They're like pinballs

Bounce off a tackle or two, head for the end zone

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 6:00 PM EST   0 recs

Just watched the play several times

Three Gamecock defenders were prepared to take him down if he got through the hole. Not a one went around the back, and that’s where Demps came from. Suddenly, all three were out of position, and a single block sprung him.

It’s the details that will get you.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 6:03 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Tebow with the block, Demps with the score. 41-6, PAT pending.

by Year2 on Nov 15, 2008 6:00 PM EST   0 recs

This is such an incredible team

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a team as good as Florida. This is just — wow.

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by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2008 6:07 PM EST   0 recs

So close… the last guy to miss slowed him down just enough.

by peachy rex on Nov 15, 2008 6:09 PM EST   0 recs